She swallowed a glow plug

[ttman4]

I'm trying to follow you guys, nearly got it figured out but not quite.

@1mouse3 & @IDIBRONCO you saying the AC Delco 60G & the Bosch 80034 are both for the GM 6.2 & 6.5 engines, correct? And both, are they self limiting plugs or not?

And they both have little bit narrower blades than the regular 6.9 bladed plugs? (Not recall the 6.9 plug number right now. I been running ZD9 in my 7.3......I have never had nor run a 6.9 before)

And @1mouse3 if i understand you turned some off the hex of 60G plug to get it to seat better/deeper? And maybe the Bosch 80034 might seat better than the 60G plug???

Other day I picked up set of AC Delco 60G plugs from ORiley. They are infact shorter than the ZD9 plugs, or at least shorter from the hex down to the tip. The actual tip is nearly same length, yet doesn't look to extend as deep into the head as the ZD9.

I feel I can run blade glow plugs on my 7.3 no trouble if they are self limiter plugs. I can either change bullet connectors over to blade connectors or make some short adaptors from bullet to blade.....no problem.

And Edit: When I Ohmn my plugs to check them what should be the good plug/ohm reading?

Just trying to get this all figured out. Thanks .

 

[ttman4]

I'm trying to follow you guys, nearly got it figured out but not quite.

@1mouse3 & @IDIBRONCO you saying the AC Delco 60G & the Bosch 80034 are both for the GM 6.2 & 6.5 engines, correct? And both are they self limiting plugs?

And they both are

 

[1mouse3]

I'm trying to follow you guys, nearly got it figured out but not quite.

@1mouse3 & @IDIBRONCO you saying the AC Delco 60G & the Bosch 80034 are both for the GM 6.2 & 6.5 engines, correct? And both, are they self limiting plugs or not?

And they both have little bit narrower blades than the regular 6.9 bladed plugs? (Not recall the 6.9 plug number right now. I been running ZD9 in my 7.3......I have never had nor run a 6.9 before)

And @1mouse3 if i understand you turned some off the hex of 60G plug to get it to seat better/deeper? And maybe the Bosch 80034 might seat better than the 60G plug???

Other day I picked up set of AC Delco 60G plugs from ORiley. They are infact shorter than the ZD9 plugs, or at least shorter from the hex down to the tip. The actual tip is nearly same length, yet doesn't look to extend as deep into the head as the ZD9.

I feel I can run blade glow plugs on my 7.3 no trouble if they are self limiter plugs. I can either change bullet connectors over to blade connectors or make some short adaptors from bullet to blade.....no problem.

And Edit: When I Ohmn my plugs to check them what should be the good plug reading?

Just trying to get this all figured out. Thanks .

I know the 60g is and would assume the same for the bosch being self limiting, since are both for the 6.2/6.5. Yes some had to be "turned" on the 60g nut to get it seated, but looks like the bosch come pre turned. I have tested my 60g to work for 30 sec + before install for function, part new and rest used on the 6.9 set.

 

[IDIBRONCO]

And both, are they self limiting plugs or not?

Yes they both are.

And they both have little bit narrower blades than the regular 6.9 bladed plugs?

Yes they do because the 6.2/6.5s use a narrower wire end to slip over them.

(Not recall the 6.9 plug number right now.

ZD1A is the Motorcraft number.

I feel I can run blade glow plugs on my 7.3 no trouble if they are self limiter plugs. I can either change bullet connectors over to blade connectors or make some short adaptors from bullet to blade.....no problem.

You can, but Bosch sells some that have a bullet connector. I can't remember the number right now. I think it was Kansas IDI who posted the number for the bullet connector Boschs.
Just remember, though, that the stock glow plug controllers won't work with self limiting plugs. The 6.9 style might, but I don't know since I convert those all to manual control before they burn out my glow plugs.

 

[KansasIDI]

Yes they both are.

Yes they do because the 6.2/6.5s use a narrower wire end to slip over them.

ZD1A is the Motorcraft number.

You can, but Bosch sells some that have a bullet connector. I can't remember the number right now. I think it was Kansas IDI who posted the number for the bullet connector Boschs.
Just remember, though, that the stock glow plug controllers won't work with self limiting plugs. The 6.9 style might, but I don't know since I convert those all to manual control before they burn out my glow plugs.

The only Bosch number I know, is 80034, which have blade connectors. I don’t recall a bullet connector Bosch, that being said, my memory fails me at times…

 

[Cant Write]

Just remember, though, that the stock glow plug controllers won't work with self limiting plugs.

Why not? Do the controllers not “light” them long enough...or?

Thanks!!

 

[IDIBRONCO]

The 7.3 style controllers use resistance to determine glow time. The self limiting ones don't give enough resistance so the glow time is too short. That's from what I remember seeing here. I do know that the self limiting ones need a longer glow time that the Motorcraft ones do.

 

[Old Goat]

https://www.boschsparkplugs.net/compareproducts

https://www.boschsparkplugs.net/bosch-80024-f01g09p2a4-glow-plug

One (1) OEM Bosch Glow Plug for 1979-1986 GM/Ford diesel applications

This is one brand new diesel glow plug. It is for a variety 1979-1986 cars, trucks and vans equipped with a diesel engine. Please refer to the compatibility information below to see if this part is correct for your application. This is a brand new part, it has never been installed on a...

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Goat

 

[IDIBRONCO]

Wrong info here.

 

[IDIBRONCO]

The only Bosch number I know, is 80034, which have blade connectors. I don’t recall a bullet connector Bosch, that being said, my memory fails me at times…

https://www.boschsparkplugs.net/compareproducts

https://www.boschsparkplugs.net/bosch-80024-f01g09p2a4-glow-plug

One (1) OEM Bosch Glow Plug for 1979-1986 GM/Ford diesel applications

This is one brand new diesel glow plug. It is for a variety 1979-1986 cars, trucks and vans equipped with a diesel engine. Please refer to the compatibility information below to see if this part is correct for your application. This is a brand new part, it has never been installed on a...

aaaaautomotive.com

Goat

Well I was wrong on who posted the numbers.

 

[KansasIDI]

80028

Appears to be a bullet style glow plug, seems to be the right length. For VW golfs. I don’t know it they are self limiting though… but… a friend of mine has a couple diesel Golfs, and, they start, every time.

 

[IDIBRONCO]

If he happens to have any extras laying arou8nd, you could compare them.

 

[KansasIDI]

Lol I asked him after I typed that, had same thought. He said, he has never replaced glow plugs, and thus has no spares. He has put over 100,000 miles on one.

 

[ttman4]

So I'm still trying to get this sorted out. Like I say I never really run or hardly been around & working on a 6.9 other than driving one a few trips.

My 7.3 I've always run Brea/ ZD9 plugs. Interested now in the GM self regulated plugs.

Also like I say I've had my glowplugs set up on a grounded pushbutton. This is set up different than someone posted other day...... a printout that I printed off for to keep. I think it originally was over on "DIESEL HUB"

My set-up is that I cut the black ground controller wire & ran thru push button, push button 8-10-12 sec, crank on it, if no start then push button again.

I mostly been having trouble finding good quality ZD9 etc,

And I didn't know that 6.9 & 7.3 controllers set-up were different other than 7.3 bullet vs 6.9 blade connectors.

 

[ttman4]

I guess I need to be asking myself regulating glowplug and controller set-up questions on the thread "Self regulatiing glow plugs" started by @jonleroy2506 on Oct 1st....????