H E L P 911 Truck won't start..stuck at fuel station...*****

[riotwarrior]

Goes like this...

Get a call about alarm for SAR hall...go to reset alarm, stop get fuel...put fuel in. Got in go to start truck...um...spins like **** no fire!

Ok wait a bit try again...spin spin spin...NO fire...

Get out check schrader valve at fuel filter...(have electric lift) spits out nice CHECK!

get in try again....hmm...nope nadda

Get out test schrader again...Check...test FSS clickity click ...Check...do both two more times...CHECK each time

Looking good...ok spin again...nadda...not a thing...hmmm....***...

Shitzngigglz...wee squirt of crack in a can...either...Um this should get it to fire....spin...hear that bog as it trys but NO CAN DO won't fire...

test the schrader and FSS again....check...gently wrap IP with crescent wrench...and pour COLD water on head where lines are...

Try to fire the truck..nadda OK ***....just a random NO can fire situation here...sure sure...lets thunk it out Al...you know enough have read all these 911 and effing won't start blah blah blah threads....

Ahh...yes...lets test for fuel out of the injection line...good idea! So...undo the most forward injection line at front of engine on DRIVERS side....OH ya test FSS, and schrader again....those two test ok...Check...spin engine to attempt to start...hmmmm

*** NO FUEL from injection line.......ok wait....try again

NADDA...

OK try one more time...

NADDA

Please tell me I don't have a failed IP and I missed some magical test I neglected to try in my fit of confusion and frustration...

Oh..trucks still at the fuel stop...parked on side...my wonderful wifey came picked me up

Oh never made it to SAR hall...another member happened by and said he was there reset alarm...rofl

 

[gandalf]

Al, you know the drill far better than I do, so I won't even try to tell you what to do. If you can, get a charger on the batteries overnight. You probably wore them down a bit while deciding that it wouldn't start. When you try again in the morning run heavy duty jumpers from another vehicle, just to give it as much power as possible.

Personally, I think your truck was jealous/pissed about all the time you've been spending under the house--probably thinks you have a new mistress under there.

Good think you have an understanding wife to come get you.

 

['94IDITurbo7.3]

well if you are getting good fuel out of the filter and into the IP and are getting the click from the FSS, but no fuel out the injection lines, it sounds like your IP just took a dump. i assume everything was fine before shutting it off. no rough running?

 

[riotwarrior]

well if you are getting good fuel out of the filter and into the IP and are getting the click from the FSS, but no fuel out the injection lines, it sounds like your IP just took a dump. i assume everything was fine before shutting it off. no rough running?

Ran fine all the way to town...started fine at home...not a single indication of a problem what so ever. Trucks been running great ....

SOUNDS like a BIG Pictutorial coming up....I wanna swear a bad word...a #bomb...ugh...

Batteries are solid...spins like **** more than enough to fire that sucker seriously ....

 

[RLDSL]

How cold was it? Sounds like you might have gelled up

 

[riotwarrior]

How cold was it? Sounds like you might have gelled up

I've got -8 here now...but fuel was ****** out that filter and I drove 10 minutes just moments before filling up with 30 bucks of fuel...not an issue at all..then I don't think...

Good call though so just about 29F I guess

 

[icanfixall]

Anything like white smoke out the tail pipe... If crack in a can was causing the engine to lock up but not fire that tells me you have plenty of compression but no fuel getting into the cylinders. Not clear if the hard line cracked open showed fuel leaking out. Was the tank close to mt. Could you have run out of fuel just as you truned off the engine. Happened to me like that once. I was waiting to cross the highway to get fueled up... Lots of traffic... Had to wait. Finally got into the station but ran out just as I pulled up to fuel up. Standing on bumper. Bleeding lines finally got it running. Never let that happen again either..

 

[riotwarrior]

Anything like white smoke out the tail pipe... If crack in a can was causing the engine to lock up but not fire that tells me you have plenty of compression but no fuel getting into the cylinders. Not clear if the hard line cracked open showed fuel leaking out. Was the tank close to mt. Could you have run out of fuel just as you truned off the engine. Happened to me like that once. I was waiting to cross the highway to get fueled up... Lots of traffic... Had to wait. Finally got into the station but ran out just as I pulled up to fuel up. Standing on bumper. Bleeding lines finally got it running. Never let that happen again either..

Gary, the electric lift would be the primary thing that lets me know I have fuel...

Truck had fuel at fuel station and ran absolutely fine...shut down normal

NO fuel out of the fully open and exposed injector line what so ever...but a drip...not spray...but a slow slow drip like it's fuel being fed into and through ip from lift pump??? could have just been fuel leaking out from shaking as the engine was turned over.

 

[ah1988ford]

Blockage in the line going from the fuel filter to the ip ?
Try the cold water trick ??

 

[riotwarrior]

Well I'll do more tests tomorrow and post whats going on...

WARM water trick????

I only know cold water trick....

If worse comes to worse...this was on a decent running engine or at least so I thought...it ended up being quite effed inside but was a full reman engine...

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I know this engine ran and I know this IP was good when that engine ran...so it's going to be my test mule if the other one is shot!

Gavin was most generous in immediately offering me his old IP off his truck...currently ON it as he has a Baby Moose waiting to install..but I GOTTA do pictutorial on the re n re for him...

I'd be doing one anyway if I gotta go that route...swap IP's that is...ugh

 

[ah1988ford]

I only know cold water trick....

Thats what I meant brain fart whoopse ..

 

[WilltheThrill]

I had that same thing it was a blown fuse on glow plug to batt solenoid. also trace power wire on IP pump?

 

[Matrix37495]

The only thing i could think of you didn't try was pouring cool water over the IP head....

 

[sassyrel]

Goes like this...

Get a call about alarm for SAR hall...go to reset alarm, stop get fuel...put fuel in. Got in go to start truck...um...spins like **** no fire!

Ok wait a bit try again...spin spin spin...NO fire...

Get out check schrader valve at fuel filter...(have electric lift) spits out nice CHECK!

get in try again....hmm...nope nadda

Get out test schrader again...Check...test FSS clickity click ...Check...do both two more times...CHECK each time

Looking good...ok spin again...nadda...not a thing...hmmm....***...

Shitzngigglz...wee squirt of crack in a can...either...Um this should get it to fire....spin...hear that bog as it trys but NO CAN DO won't fire...

test the schrader and FSS again....check...gently wrap IP with crescent wrench...and pour COLD water on head where lines are...

Try to fire the truck..nadda OK ***....just a random NO can fire situation here...sure sure...lets thunk it out Al...you know enough have read all these 911 and effing won't start blah blah blah threads....

Ahh...yes...lets test for fuel out of the injection line...good idea! So...undo the most forward injection line at front of engine on DRIVERS side....OH ya test FSS, and schrader again....those two test ok...Check...spin engine to attempt to start...hmmmm

*** NO FUEL from injection line.......ok wait....try again

NADDA...

OK try one more time...

NADDA

Please tell me I don't have a failed IP and I missed some magical test I neglected to try in my fit of confusion and frustration...

Oh..trucks still at the fuel stop...parked on side...my wonderful wifey came picked me up

Oh never made it to SAR hall...another member happened by and said he was there reset alarm...rofl

yeah,,i read all the replys.......tell you what i had...ran fine out to acreage..restarted and headed home.. half way home,,engine shut down....?????? i was alone!! so no way to listen for click of fss..got home,guess what?? NO CLICK!!!! had some old buick 5.7 pumps..pulled the fss out of one of them,,and switched it into my cover,,fun.... hit the switch,,bingo!!!! if you hear a def click,,welll...make sure,,you disconnect the gp's,,or you may be hearing that click..

 

[Exekiel69]

He did pour cold water on the IP.
If no fuel at the injector lines and yes at the ff out line then the solenoid is dead (You said it does have power) or IP dead.