H E L P 911 Truck won't start..stuck at fuel station...*****

[riotwarrior]

He did pour cold water on the IP.
If no fuel at the injector lines and yes at the ff out line then the solenoid is dead (You said it does have power) or IP dead.

Last night I was exhausted from helping fill and load 275+ sand bags for SAR fund raising earlier in day/ then work on insulate trailer....sore back etc.

I was removing the actual FSS wire...with the key turned to RUN/ON.... FSS click....put wire on...click take wire off...click back on click...I WAS NOT HEARING GLOW PLUGS I was at the IP doing this and able to feel and listen for that click!

Cold water did nadda....for those that suggested it repeatedly it's in the first post that it WAS attempted...

Today I'm going to try fuel supply line INTO IP....it was dark and limited tools, to see if it's getting fuel...also that return line fitting from IP make sure it's clear n so forth...

HOLD THROTTLE wide open and crank and see of I get fuel at injectors..

I'll have a remote starter switch with me today to do this! As well as a few other tools...will post findings...ugh...

I sure hope my IP didn't just **** out on me....I really do. This truck has run great when fired...always fires reasonably quick...got about 10 sec glow first thing...takes a lil bit cranking...10 15 seconds to fire at 0c or there bouts..not plugged in.

Smokes lil light blue on start up but clears up when warmed up.

Anyway going to wait till lightens up a bit more then go see ifn I can wake the White rhino up...rofl....

 

[Rot Box]

Dang everything that comes to mind has already been mentioned. Hope you get it sorted out though

 

[FORDF250HDXLT]

yeah,it sounds like you tested everything good but the ip just died.we hear of them going out like this from time to time on here,but it sure seems rare.
hopefully she is just gelled up,but usually they have the fuel blended good these days for the area.
some diesel 911 in the filter should make quick work of any gelling.

when was the last time you fueled up? maybe if it's been a while and you have summer grade fuel in the tank still? if you knew that was the case,then you'd have a good idea what the issue is,but if not......doesn't sound good.

 

[idiabuse]

I always have a 5/8 wrench handy to crack all 8 injectors when some crazyness like that happens. eliminate the questions just get to the good stuff.
Wet at all 8 tighten and start it up.


Javier

 

[riotwarrior]

Well...returned to get truck....

1st jump battery from Ranger TO 1 ton...CHECK

Second...go ***....damn cold...had to run into service station...they was open CHECK

Third...test all known power to electric lift, CHECK

Forth...listen to lift....CHECK

Fifth....test for fuel out schrader...CHECK

Sixth...crack same injector line carefully pull away from injector...(Daylight now can actually see well) CHECK

Seventh...turn engine over...tiny squirt seen from injector line CHECK

Eighth...remove air filter assembly...give we shot o Crack...CHECK

Ninth...turn over in attempt to start...put put put puuuut.stall CHECK

Tenth...wait a bit...turn over and while turning over lil shots of crack....CHECK Vroom cough sputter cough cackle ...cough sputter cackle...it's RUNNING

slowly bring up RPM on pump...all good..ok...blip blip of throttle...groovy...

So it would seem to me I ran out of fuel just as I arrived at station, topped up with 30 bucks of diesel...then it wasn't primed...I can't think of anything else at all....nothing else makes sense...

Truck ran like a champ all the way home NARY a problem, burp fart nadda...was just fine!


So, I do have my deisel 911 behind my seat..JIC...but I didn't touch it...not going too unless it's a must do..

Hmmm..

Thanks guys for all the tips...though gellin was the only one I missed...

Ya 5/8 Wrench NOW is SOP in truck! ....gonna have to make room for stuff it would appear...ugh...

Whew...is all I can say...didn't want to do an IP right now that's for sure...

AL

 

[gandalf]

Congrats, Al. Glad to hear that it was nothing serious. ie $$$. That's always a good thing.

You're right, it sounds for all the world like it ran out of fuel and took a massive dose of air into the IP. That's easy enough to fix.

Now, look everything over pretty carefully to be sure that's all it was.

 

[riotwarrior]

Congrats, Al. Glad to hear that it was nothing serious. ie $$$. That's always a good thing.

You're right, it sounds for all the world like it ran out of fuel and took a massive dose of air into the IP. That's easy enough to fix.

Now, look everything over pretty carefully to be sure that's all it was.

Gremlins....I counts it as Gremlins.....lil buggers...least they work close to home!

I'll be finishing up my trailer ASAP, that will allow me needed time for truck...

Yes full and thorough inspection is due and in order after that fiasco for certain!

Then I'll be pulling all GP's and installing my NEW Beru ZD9's to start, I know then they are NEW and have faith that they'll be fine for some time.

Serp belt changeover and 250 AMP 3G alt.

Carrier pump and Racor filter setup after that....it's all about what I have...what I have that needs rebuild (racor new orings and such) and what I have to order...Carrier....and new Serp belt and idler pulley...rofl

Also gotta work on getting rear tank either fixed/brazed installed...or replace with same...or spend the extra n get a 38 Gallon rear...for now..if I can braze the rear tank I'll do that then plan to upgrade size of tank next year...

I've gotta start planning on some New fuel system hardware...IP/injectors but would prefer to work that in in the new year.

 

[RLDSL]

I had the same thing happen when I first got my truck, ran out pulling into a station and didnt have teh e pump yet. Had a heck of a time getting it going.

Even though it wasnt the problem, you do need to watch that temp. Crummy fuel can begin to gel at 35 deg f . If you fuel at an unknown station that heats their tanks and lines instead of getting proper winter fuel early in the season, you can find yourself on a hook.

I remember being up near CHicago a few years back and they had an early cold snap and their fuel was gelling in the pumps and wouldnt come out, and this was at a Petro
( of course, I remember a bunch of years ago out in I think it was Nebraska at some little truck stop, watching the owner cutting his storage tanks fuel with a garden hose so you never know what you are really getting )

 

[icanfixall]

Wow... It does sound like your rig ran out of fuel just as you shut it down... At least you know what the mt fuel gauge looks like now and can stay away from that point now... you got every last drop out of that tank...

 

[GOOSE]

My front tank has a nasty habit of allowing the engine to lose its prime on the last 1/8 tank or so. It starts by not wanting to start up after being shut off, then progresses to shutting down when idling, all the while it will pull fuel just fine when sustaining highway speeds. I'm guessing the fuel pickup needs attention on my part. It sounds like a similar situation on your part, just even less than 1/8 of a tank for you, more like very empty.

 

[bbjordan]

Glad you got it running again. I love happy endings.

You gotta love a wife that'll come get you when things aren't going as planned. Sounds like you got a keeper there.

When I was reading the posts of the collective, I was thinking air in the IP. This group has a lot of knowledge and experience. Icanfixall nailed it in post #7. Good call!

Always try the simple stuff first before assuming the worst.

 

[Brad S.]

In a effort to make sure the IP has power to all points, could a person run a wire from the FSS to a small LED light on the dash???
I had a problem one time when my GP controller wasn't getting power = no power to GP's duh.
I thought of running a wire from the controller to a very small LED lite on the dash.
That way I would know if the GP's were getting power.