Cooling issues!!!! Cannot chase this one down!!!

[typ4]

If there is crap in the cooling passages there is likely crap in the oil cooler water tubes and can cause issues.
And distilled water for flushing, I dont think so. Maybe final fill but I have been buying mixed coolant for work because people are stupid. So Its cheaper for me to use that.

 

[riotwarrior]

Ha-ha-ha! I guess I'll be drinking distilled water for awhile... (which I like because it's pure water and there is a difference that I can feel - but some say it will leach out minerals from the body- likely true if you drink it frequently) It might leach out bad stuff too though.

I bought 14 gallons of distilled water last night just to get started with flushes today and was planning to buy more today.

I was going by a frequently discussed method at FTE forums, called '*****'s flush and fill', or something like that.

Whoever ***** was, he knew a lot about coolants back in those days (10-15 years ago). The main discussion was in a Power Stroke Forum. There was even a seminar in San Francisco where people brought their trucks somewhere to learn how to do this. One guy who posted about that seminar (if I remember correctly) mentioned starting with 40 gallons of distilled water with a child's plastic wading pool from Walmart for a drain pan, then he had to send someone out to buy 16 more gallons of distilled water before he was finished. That would be 8 flushes with distilled water, also wasting fuel and being soaking wet for an entire day.

I've always thought that method was crazy and I mentioned that in an earlier post in this thread. After reading your comment here I was thinking: The cooling system in a big cast iron IDI diesel is obviously not a sterile laboratory for medical research or a sterile surgery room for doing brain transplants.

However, my technical mind had overtaken my practical and common sense mind as I thought:

Very technically in terms of chemistry, distilled water will likely work a little bit better for a final clear flush, help remove some small amount of lingering minerals or a little bit of chemical residue from a chemical radiator flush but now today, after your comment I realize again it's a cast iron diesel engine, not a sterile biochemistry lab.

So, I've opened a jug of distilled water and on my second cup I'll be in the kitchen making a pot of coffee with it. That should be good coffee.

I really do have something very important to add to riotwarrior's tech instructions on replacing a thermostat- it's important enough to prevent potential unwanted damage that some people with a different year of vehicle might experience.

I'll have to get to that later because again it is not raining right now and I need to get some more work done on my truck first. I bit off a lot to chew on this job, with this weather. I will post the information here later though, with a photo or two and send a PM to riotwarrior about it.

Dont you think you mit want to ask me what year I worked on?

Maybe it doesnt matter what year be it 6.9 or 7.3

Just sayin...or maybe it wasnt anything I considered important.

Or maybe I missed something and you have something

Regadlezs...zaying 6ou have something to add repearltadly does nothing just say it and be done.....

It is like when people say......Can I ask you a question?...I reply...you just did....well can I ask another? ...again...I reply...you just did.....this has gone to 4 times with me before they azk what they wanted to azk...

Zo instead of saying you hqve something to say....

Say it

Nuff said

 

[IDIoit]

Dont you think you mit want to ask me what year I worked on?

Maybe it doesnt matter what year be it 6.9 or 7.3

Just sayin...or maybe it wasnt anything I considered important.

Or maybe I missed something and you have something

Regadlezs...zaying 6ou have something to add repearltadly does nothing just say it and be done.....

It is like when people say......Can I ask you a question?...I reply...you just did....well can I ask another? ...again...I reply...you just did.....this has gone to 4 times with me before they azk what they wanted to azk...

Zo instead of saying you hqve something to say....

Say it

Nuff said

Al, can i ask you a question?

 

[OLDBULL8]

What is the hydroponics of water?

 

[riotwarrior]

Al, can i ask you a question?

You just did

 

[IDIoit]

You just did

can i ask you another one?

 

[riotwarrior]

can i ask you another one?

You just did...

 

[Fixnstuff]

First: Sorry it is taking so long. The reasons: 1) I am struggling with some medical and pain issues and taking extended release morphine for pain- both the medical issue and the morphine cause cognitive impairments and of those impairments, what applies to this situation mostly is lack of concentration abilities (also other effects I won't list - to keep this short).

Since what I have to write relating to the thermostat replacement is technical (although it is not complex - it's pretty simple with the photo), I want my writing to be perfect, technically concise, clear and easy to understand so it is simple but very clear. That is a habit from doing a lot of technical writing in my former 'profession' far more complex than this, so personally I would not write anything technical that is intended to be instructional that others will read without making it that way. That requires concentration and needs to be done when my concentration is good and I am not experiencing chronic fatigue and lack of mental stamina (another thing I have to struggle with). These 'good times' during the day and night last about 1/2 hour about 3 or 4 times per day - during which time I can easily write this thing about the thermostat replacement IF and when I am not working on something more important.

Right now I am working on a very important letter to my medical specialist at a hospital in Seattle which is LONG over due and has been on my desktop unfinished for a long time- Now is the time I need to finish that so this is my set #1 priority right now.

Also unexpected things come up that demand my attention, like anyone else and that's another reason.

It's a rain/wind day here and I am making this little technical piece my second priority of the day.
Again, it is not a big complicated thing but I have to do it right

Dont you think you mit want to ask me what year I worked on?

Maybe it doesnt matter what year be it 6.9 or 7.3

If I remember correctly your article states that it was a 92 F350 7.3L NA (normally aspirated = non turbo)

YES, that truck, a generation 9 design is significantly different than my generation 8 1987 6.9L - I don't know if the fuel filter assembly design continues into the 7.3L of 1988-91 (I need to confirm that) but it does appear to go back before 1987 into the 7th generation and I need to confirm that also -all of the years that are the same.

Because of this difference your photo instructions will definitely lead to a problem that will require backing up, reinstalling some bolts and doing it a different way (which I had to do) = because if one continues to follow your instructions, which some people are likely to do = without backing up and doing it differently, there is a significant risk of damaging the metal fuel lines... or their brass connectors which don't accommodate stresses very well and can crack - especially if they have been over-tightened which is very common..... OR one to as many as four fuel line leaks could result, two of which are very well hidden and would not be noticed until thy created a starting problem.

Just sayin...or maybe it wasnt anything I considered important.

Or maybe I missed something and you have something

Your article is excellent and you would not notice exactly what I am talking about because your truck is designed differently, however, there could be a concern with the truck you worked on that you might have missed and I cannot tell from your photos. ALL of this will become very clear when I write it out with the photo I selected and have already worked that through photo editing software - just getting photos into my computer with an old digital camera with no drivers for it takes a bit of time. eg I have to boot into an old XP partition that I created especially for extracting pics from the camera, then reboot into main LINUX (I love it) partition where I can then access the XP partition to transfer the photos into this partition where I can work with them in advanced photo and graphics software -

HIGH WINDS here lights flickering and power might go out so I'll take a break and resume when this scenario settles down.

 

[IDIoit]

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[Fixnstuff]

What is the hydroponics of water?

You are probably joking but:

Hydroponics is a method of growing plants without soil, instead placing them in super nutrient-rich water.

So, an answer to your question could be interpreted as the nutrients that are put in the water.

This method was created during the 18

th century as a way to grow plants where there was no soil. Recently, people have started to adopt this type of gardening in their homes as a way to grow fresh and delicious food without having to deal with tending the soil and ensuring the garden bed isn’t going to be infested with bugs or other unwanted creatures.

Source: http://lerablog.org/home-and-family/gardening/hydroponics-greenhouses-grow-bigger-and-better-with-no-soil/

From everything I have read it's a very efficient way to grow excellent plants (mainly food plants) and is also done on some large scales in huge greenhouses.

I would like to try that sometime but no time or convenience to mess with it now- I am trying to get ready to move out of state next year. If I move to a hot desert like climate where I couldn't grow a garden (I do not have a 'green thumb' by the way) it would be fun and useful to have a little greenhouse and do this.

I have a collection of one species of cactus, called the San Pedro cactus from the Andes mountains of Peru, a Sacred Cactus of the Incas and others with documented use for the past 3,000 years and also depicted in their ancient artwork. I started with one and it was doing great- some malicious kids kicked it and broke it while I had it in front of my house, I replanted the broken pieces and then had three. Not 20 minutes after I put it out front again, these kids kicked it and broke it again! So I cut those pieces up - replanted and now I have 19 in 10 pots! Half of those are over 3 ft tall- they grow fast and can reach 15 to 20 feet tall!

These are a hallucinogenic cactus that produces mescaline, like ****** it has been used as a spiritual sacrament for thousands of years. I am not growing these for that purpose. They are currently legal but extracting mescaline from them is not legal. I saw a huge thick one in my friend's house (he is a horticulturist) and I loved the appearance of it! It reminded me of the sunny southwestern states (I miss sunshine in this long wet winters gloomy place) and his had big arms like a Saguaro cactus and I loved it! As I was praising his cactus for it's awesome appearance he said, "Here, take this home with you." It was an 8 inch long piece of San Pedro cactus. He told me how to plant it and take care of it and after 1 year it was looking awesome, with arms coming out too- until those kids broke it.

I just put them into hibernation for the winter in a dark corner of my huge shed- they do much better that way and maintain their shape better than trying to manage their growth under grow lights through the winter (which I did for one winter - they grow too fast and get thinner which I don't want).

I have long been interested in and studied Native American History and Culture quite extensively going way back. It is very difficult to get a TRUE understanding of Native American Culture because there really is a huge cultural barrier to understanding and traditional Native Americans are very very protective of the special things and secrets of their culture (especially the Spiritual) and want to keep this cultural barrier in place for their own cultural protection which given the history since European arrival is very understandable. There really is so much misinformed and misleading crap written by anthropologists, archaeologists and others about Native American Culture over the past 5 centuries it's not easy it's not easy to pass through the barriers to get a true understanding of the cultures and spiritual aspects. I have a bit of an advantage due to a long and distinguished family history through a line of the most important principle chiefs of that tribe during the historical period (after European arrival) on one side of my family and this was a fascination for me leading to extensive genealogy work and study of the histories and cultures of many Native American Tribes. Way off topic and meaningless in a diesel forum but when I get started writing about something I like to finish it and I always like to share and teach something in my posts even if it happens to be off-topic- some future reader will appreciate it.

 

[riotwarrior]

Truck i question in article...

90 F350 4x4 ZF 5SP

Article wrtten for basic understanding. If you cannot figure out how to do this its likely byond a persons scope of practice or skill set.

As differences dxist between 6.9 and 7.3 filter housings there could be a step or few changed...granted...but it was written for 7.3

Write yer own for a 6.9 to show differences.

It actually is a super simple procedure not requiring complex instruction unless one has never turned a wrench....and jn that case it might be bezt to seek a proffesional if beyond the scope of ones zkill set.


Just saying

We are not building thermonuclear engines designed for interstellar transport of humans or other life forms...they are stupid sime trucks to work on...it was intended as a guide for folks not a verbaitem poi t for poi t how too....

Lmao