Holley Red are garbage, what else quickly?

[tbowker]

I use a facet dura- lift pump, model 40222. American made and costs about 115 dollars. I got it at Pegasus auto racing supplies.

 

[SouthernIDI]

I built a regulate high pressure system for the same amount of money it costed me to install the garbage 40222 from facet.
I would never suggest that anyone goes to a low pressure pump.
Source your own parts and build your own high pressure system, you could put a whole system together for around $250 using
a Walbro high pressure pump, Holley bypass regulator, filter heads, and filters.

 

[IDIoit]

i run nothing but holley pumps.
the holley red i have on my 87 F350, has been on since 2016. zero issues
the holley red i have in my 68 pontiac has been on since 2007
ive got several vehicles with these pumps, i rarely have a problem.


in diesel applications, i would recommend a water/fuel Seperator first,
if you subject it to water, it will gum up the veins.

 

[KansasIDI]

i run nothing but holley pumps.
the holley red i have on my 87 F350, has been on since 2016. zero issues
the holley red i have in my 68 pontiac has been on since 2007
ive got several vehicles with these pumps, i rarely have a problem.


in diesel applications, i would recommend a water/fuel Seperator first,
if you subject it to water, it will gum up the veins.

Ooh yeller filter$$$

Part # for the filter heads?

 

[IDIoit]

Ooh yeller filter$$$

Part # for the filter heads?

so long ago, and so many parts ordered.i got them on ebay

 

[Cubey]

I ran Holley red for 3 years on my RV. Just sold it with it still running fine.

 

[ROCK HARVEY]

I wonder if there are other Ford Trucks/Cars that use an electric Fuel Pump that might work that are OEM/NOS

I’ve wondered about this as well, but not just Ford. The DB2 injection pump was used in tons of applications, and I would think a lift pump from any of them would work well for us. I can’t remember if the GM 6.2 or 6.5 used an electric lift pump, but one of them does.

For myself, I must have gotten lucky with my facet 40222. Everyone else seems to have problems but mine has been great for the last two years, even running great on a 50/50 mixture of diesel and oil when it was 18 degrees the other day.

 

[Jesus Freak]

I’ve wondered about this as well, but not just Ford. The DB2 injection pump was used in tons of applications, and I would think a lift pump from any of them would work well for us. I can’t remember if the GM 6.2 or 6.5 used an electric lift pump, but one of them does.

For myself, I must have gotten lucky with my facet 40222. Everyone else seems to have problems but mine has been great for the last two years, even running great on a 50/50 mixture of diesel and oil when it was 18 degrees the other day.

Gravity feed, it's what's on the horizon. No more fuel pump, just a big tank rachet strapped to the roof or hood. It's genius, one less thing that can break, and the elimination of "the weakest link"!

 

[SouthernIDI]

Ooh yeller filter$$$

Part # for the filter heads?

These are what I used, but im not using CAT filters. But again you should be able to find a matching filter.

4770 / WIX 24770 Diesel Fuel Filter Remote Mount Base Fit ForCAT 1R-0749 1R-0750 | eBay

1 x Filter Base. Base Thread: 1"-14TPI. We only warranty cost of item parts. One Year Warranty.

www.ebay.com

 

[ISPKI]

Gravity feed, it's what's on the horizon. No more fuel pump, just a big tank rachet strapped to the roof or hood. It's genius, one less thing that can break, and the elimination of "the weakest link"!

Then you would need a pump to lift the fuel up into the tank for the return system... probably...

 

[ISPKI]

If Big Earl ever needs to get converted to an electric lift pump then I will likely spring for one of these Walbro pumps. Seem to have far better ratings than the Facets and Holleys.

https://www.summitracing.com/parts/...MI8vu2oYbsggMV20ZHAR1JVQ-IEAQYBiABEgJ73PD_BwE

Rated for 18,000hrs continuous duty in diesel application minimum. Something I have always wondered about the Holley pumps is that they dont seem to say anything about running diesel. We know theyre used frequently in hot rodding and that seems to be their intended purpose, but they may have longevity issues with pushing diesel fuel. Personally, for the price, I would want to see that the pump is designed for diesel service, but maybe it doesnt matter as much as I think. As others have noted, they have been running holleys for a decent period of time without issues.

 

[Clb]

Well @less than $20.00 a year it looks like idiots beta testing prove a better value than the faccett...
My only gripe is how loud it is.
If it fails, I'm putting the 40k oem unit back in.

Eta
I bet #2 is easier on the seals than the sh it ty cocktail in cali that passes for "gas" let it sit awhile and watch the carnage...

 

[Kevin 007]

I would use a basic Carter one in a pinch.

The Carter 4070's have also taken a huge turn for the worst. I was running exclusively Carters on various things up until about 3 years ago, the newer ones would only last me maybe 500hrs or less. Installed correctly. The old ones, seemed to run indefinitely.

I have 6 Carter 4070's on the shelf, that have failed super early. I have yet to tear into them to see what exactly is failing. Im thinking something in the electrical side of it.

 

[ISPKI]

Well @less than $20.00 a year it looks like idiots beta testing prove a better value than the faccett...
My only gripe is how loud it is.
If it fails, I'm putting the 40k oem unit back in.

Eta
I bet #2 is easier on the seals than the sh it ty cocktail in cali that passes for "gas" let it sit awhile and watch the carnage...

My concern is if the seals in a gasoline rated pump are made of Buna N rubber, which I believe is common for gasoline applications, that same rubber degrades rapidly when in contact with biodiesel. AFAIK, all over road diesel in the US is ~10% biodiesel (maybe thats not the case everywhere, but every pump around me says that on it) which could degrade a pump designed for gasoline prematurely.

This is the same reason why the return line O-Rings are supposed to be Viton, because traditional O ring material (Buna N) wont hold up to biodiesel for very long.

 

[tbowker]

"If Big Earl ever needs to get converted to an electric lift pump then I will likely spring for one of these Walbro pumps. Seem to have far better ratings than the Facets and Holleys"

What seems to be the problem with facet pumps? I'm running one and have had no issues. I'm not opposed to running something better when this one eventually fails.