Are you guys 100% sure.....

[NTOLERANCE]

....not to pull the housing with the IP?

On my new to me van, sure seems like alot easier way to get at the thing.

I was thinking of marking where the bolts/pin are on the gear, and put it back on that way with the replacement pump, would save me alot of time.

Is there another gear that can fall or something else I am missing?

 

[fordf350man]

i beleave that there is a good chance of putting the gear on in the incorrect position and then your timing will be off, then you have to take it apart and retime the all the gears, this guy did a good idea in the video, i think it would be easier as long as you can get your timing back on correctly

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8zQ5UV-En_E

 

[lindstromjd]

It's not that you CAN'T do it, it's more like you shouldn't unless you really know what you're doing and how to line everything back up. If you do pull the housing, you'll need to put your #1 cylinder at top dead center and then the injection pump bolts make a very specific pattern to go back on. I don't remember exactly what it is though, but someone else on here will.

 

[typ4]

JUST DONT DO IT> It will be way harder to get it timed right if you do than just going by the tried and true correct procedure. I just did one for a guy down the street that wouldnt listen. Cost him 150 clams for me to fix it after working all day, NO shop would touch it.

 

[Hiball]

JUST DONT DO IT> It will be way harder to get it timed right if you do than just going by the tried and true correct procedure. I just did one for a guy down the street that wouldnt listen. Cost him 150 clams for me to fix it after working all day, NO shop would touch it.

I scoured the Tech articles in regards to removing the Pump, Could you please elaborate on the "Tried and True" method? Or if its been beat to death link it up.

Thanks

 

[fordf350man]

i think that is to not removed the gear cover just remove the pump from the gear, then you dont have to worry about any timeing issue

 

[Hiball]

i think that is to not removed the gear cover just remove the pump from the gear, then you dont have to worry about any timeing issue

I think I can handle that.. Thanks.

 

[junk]

I watched that video before. I think the method is solid. If you pull it that way though make sure you mark that gear well and can get it back on right. If you do pull it that way and have issues it will be a pain to get timed right. Good luck no matter what method you use.

 

[gandalf]

I scoured the Tech articles in regards to removing the Pump, Could you please elaborate on the "Tried and True" method? Or if its been beat to death link it up.

Thanks

I think this might be hidden a bit more than it should be. It's several clicks/links from the starting point. But it's still there, and is pointed out every week or two.

Read Mel's Article about servicing the fuel system. What you want is in the first couple pages.

 

[Wicked97]

Pulling the housing wigh the pump is bad idea no matter who says its not.
Granted you may get it right but if you don't you created one hell of alot more work.

 

[fordf350man]

well as pointed out in the video thats why you mark it, if that mark is off when you put it back on then your timing will be off, so you re-position the gear to get it right, seems straight forward to me, honestly doesnt seem any different than making marks on a driveshaft when you take it out and then reisntalling it back on those marks, just make sure its lined up, havent done one yet so i cant really judge but i have done plenty of things involving marking something to put it back in correctly

 

[tbirdfiend281]

I did a van ip a few years ago, and it was not hard, why are you wanting to pull the housing off, rather then taking the 3 bolts out of the front then pulling the ip out from the back?

 

[Shadetreemechanic]

As long as you pull it at #1 TDC it will be marked for you with two marks that just need to be lined upon the gears. Make sure you are on the #1 compression stroke by pulling the #1 glowplug. As the marks on the crank approach TDC you should be blowing lots of air out the glow plug hole. If not you are on the exhaust stroke and you will need to go all the way around again.
I assume your problem is getting the ip over the housing and out because its a van?

 

[Greg5OH]

guys who here has actually tried both ways. Im betting no one that advises against it has tried pulling it with the cover. No one has mentioned WHY the method in the video is bad. "just dont do it" wont cut it.

However, if you pull the pump like that, and try to put a new one on to the old housing-can the pump be bolted on in different ways (in 120 degree intervals) or is it only 1 way. If one way-again, i dont see a problem. if your marks line up-your timed. if they dont, spin it. Just make sure the crank stays put.

 

[typ4]

I have never pulled one with the cover, but have re installed plenty, it takes longer to bring it up to tdc and make all the marks than to pull just the pump and reinstall it, and yes its pinned so it only goes one way.
But hey ,35 years experience as a mechanic on everything , what do I know, if someone wants to do it the hard way and make a chance of more work and leaks ,then by all means ,GO FOR IT.