Injection pump rebuild

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Hello an update

I emailed a few of the rebuilders recognized by this site, about shipping to Canada.
I have received one reply so far and here is a part of the reply

"We have not shipped to Canada in months due to the Tariffs. We have no idea what to charge, and it changes all the time"
I believe they are referring to the core charge but have not clarified.

I will wait till the others reply before I make a decision.

But based on this first reply, I called all the rebuilders I could find within about 3 hours from me. I scratched off the list anyone who said they had not rebuilt one recently.

I did find one who is a stanadyne authorized rebuilder who said they still see about 3 or 4 a year, I discussed my concerns about rebuild quality that members of this forum have pointed out.
He did respond that he too had received at times pumps that had been recently rebuilt and had problems and one of the main problems he found was that the previous rebuilder did not have the proper honing machine to properly resize for the new advance piston but had resized it by lapping and not getting a good fit.
He also said he would only rebuild back to factory specs, so no mods for more power, which in my case is not a problem.
My conversations with him lead me to believe I would get a quality rebuild, but only time would tell for sure.

So if I hear more negative news from my other email inquiries, I will probably go with the above rebuilder
Have you ever ran waste oil in your truck? If not, and you can get your pump rebuilt and returned, that would be the best way to go. Sounds like the rebuilders are getting more and more pumps that have been running waste oil and are wore out inside. I would not want one of those pumps.
 

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You're not going to be in a great position to pick and choose, but if Noone stateside is able to ship to you, then a standyne rep is better than a " I do refix 4 u " moron...
Seems like you could look for a member close to you outside of the Canada border and bargain for a handoff, or wait for tourist season to snag a mule ;Poke ;)
 

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I need to do more research,
but I believe the problem is, the cost of tariffs on my importing my pump into the states.
This would be wether I mail, ups or drive it across. I could try to sneak it across your border but I would not want to risk it.
The only thing I see working is to drive my truck to one of the vendors and have them do the work directly on my truck

This is what I find when I Google auto parts tariffs.

As of now, a 25% tariff applies to all automotive parts imported into the U.S., regardless of origin, effective from May 3, 2025. Additionally, vehicles and parts from Canada and Mexico that do not meet USMCA requirements will face this tariff along with other existing tariffs, potentially totaling up to 77.5%.

This is what possibly would be charged on the core charge of the commonly quoted 400 dollars x 1.36 exchange rate = 544 canadian dollars plus possibly up to 77.5% tariff which works out to another 421 dollars Canadian.
Which do I get that back? I don't know

I was quoted 1100 to 1400 dollars from Chatham fuel injection (803 to 1022 in american dollars) against a total cost of what ??? if I order from the us
I can see why the first vendor said what they said.
I am still waiting to hear back from my other emails.
Sorry if this sounds like a rant. It was not ment that way
 
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I need to do more research,
but I believe the problem is, the cost of tariffs on my importing my pump into the states.
This would be wether I mail, ups or drive it across. I could try to sneak it across your border but I would not want to risk it.
The only thing I see working is to drive my truck to one of the vendors and have them do the work directly on my truck

This is what I find when I Google auto parts tariffs.

As of now, a 25% tariff applies to all automotive parts imported into the U.S., regardless of origin, effective from May 3, 2025. Additionally, vehicles and parts from Canada and Mexico that do not meet USMCA requirements will face this tariff along with other existing tariffs, potentially totaling up to 77.5%.

This is what possibly would be charged on the core charge of the commonly quoted 400 dollars x 1.36 exchange rate = 544 canadian dollars plus possibly up to 77.5% tariff which works out to another 421 dollars Canadian.
Which do I get that back? I don't know

I was quoted 1100 to 1400 dollars from Chatham fuel injection (803 to 1022 in american dollars) against a total cost of what ??? if I order from the us
I can see why the first vendor said what they said.
I am still waiting to hear back from my other emails.
Sorry if this sounds like a rant. It was not ment that way
Sounds like Chatham would be the way to go, even if on the high side of the quote, much cheaper than tariffs and pump rebuild. The Orange One hasn’t made it cheap to ship anything across our border, about a month ago I had some magazines made for one of my rifles, the tariff wound up costing more than the mags from Australia… I think a rant or something like one is justified…
 

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Eta
this is directed to the o p
You're not importing anything, it's probably not orag....
Never mind.

Verify shipping both ways first, then let's see how bad it really is to get personal property across the border.
You might be surprised.
 

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I had mine done by Classic Diesel Designs in Tx also and it is running strong. Give them a look, this is what they do.
 

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The Orange One hasn’t made it cheap to ship anything across our border,
Back in the 1990's a motorcyclist from Nova Scotia had parts sent to me - which he came and picked up and installed before returning to Nova Scotia because fees Canada charged to have the part shipped to Nova Scotia was expensive enough for him to travel to Maine to avoid. This problem existed for a long, long time for Canadians attempting to purchase goods from the United States.
 

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Back in the 1990's a motorcyclist from Nova Scotia had parts sent to me - which he came and picked up and installed before returning to Nova Scotia because fees Canada charged to have the part shipped to Nova Scotia was expensive enough for him to travel to Maine to avoid. This problem existed for a long, long time for Canadians attempting to purchase goods from the United States.
I don’t doubt it… sure wonder why it has to be this way though. I think doing good business with your neighbors is important, but that’s about as political as I’m willing to get on here. Seems to me like we could have cooperation that may allow all of us here in the Western hemisphere to strive in commerce and industry. I’d just as soon buy a product from Canada than China. Not to say that our current system would work very well without them, but it seems we could try to be less reliant on a fairly self reliant country that has such different views, valued, policies, etc.
 

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Seems to me like we could have cooperation that may allow all of us here in the Western hemisphere to strive in commerce and industry.
For as long as I can remember books have two prices printed on every book - a US price and a Canadian price. The Canadian price is always substantially higher. Canada also has had tariffs on lumber, diary products and other items imported from the US for years which has negatively impacted business here in Maine. NAFTA started in 1994 and tripled car production in Mexico - which negatively impacted not only the US but Canada too.
 

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My personal philosophy as a Canadian has been was allways to buy Canadian first the United States second and anybody but China third.
But if at the end of the year if I look at everthing i bought. I believe it would look more like China first united States second and Canada third.
 

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My personal philosophy as a Canadian has been was allways to buy Canadian first the United States second and anybody but China third.
But if at the end of the year if I look at everthing i bought. I believe it would look more like China first united States second and Canada third.
I had a 351 Windsor that was an incredible engine, reliable, long lasting, reasonably fuel efficient.
 

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I don’t doubt it… sure wonder why it has to be this way though. I think doing good business with your neighbors is important, but that’s about as political as I’m willing to get on here. Seems to me like we could have cooperation that may allow all of us here in the Western hemisphere to strive in commerce and industry. I’d just as soon buy a product from Canada than China. Not to say that our current system would work very well without them, but it seems we could try to be less reliant on a fairly self reliant country that has such different views, valued, policies, etc.
Any problem like this can always be whittled down to money and greed. On one side or the other or both sides.
 

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Any problem like this can always be whittled down to money and greed. On one side or the other or both sides.
The greed is the compound interest that jacks up the 'national' debt that has made it necessary to charge tariffs in the first place. Anything of value in this country has been mortgaged to the hilt to pay the interest first and the principal keeps exponentially rising.

The second place is all of the parasitic entities that get funded by other peoples money that has been exposed by someone that finally had the time and expertise to ferret out the fraud. It boggles my mind how much people get paid for doing essentially nothing while the rest of us are eking out a marginal living.

While the rest of us have been going about our business making an honest living the NGO's, non-profits, 'charities', social welfare programs, and many other schemes have been slurping up our tax money and living off the sweat of our brow. At the threat of taking away our land and houses.

All of this stuff was initiated while we were worrying about Europe in 1913 and twenty years later while we were trying to survive. Then, we got roped into rebuilding Britain, Europe and Japan and paying the lions share of the cost of death benefits for servicemen killed as well as G.I. bill education for re-aclimating young men and women to peacetime work that had P.T.S.D.

We are STILL paying for all of that because of the principle of compound interest.

No matter what we do...the bankers always win...and prosper....

The tariff thing is a last-ditch desperation move. Where else are you going to get anything of value to pay down that escalating interest ?? You have to bring value IN from outside of our borders just to keep up.

And besides, it is high time the rest of the world got off of its a$$ and paid us back for straightening things out, rebuilding their countries, keeping the peace, and international commerce protected with our naval force. Otherwise Europe would still be in shambles, Japan would be struggling, international commerce would be constantly raided by pirates, africa would be more of a sh1th0l3 than it presently is and the soviet union would still be intact and expanding its influence and domination.

So...there is more to the picture than just what you hear from the propaganda machines.

The root cause of it all is the greed of the moneychangers and insurance cartels.
 

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I'm not trying to be argumentative - however tariffs used to be America's primary source of tax revenue. From 1790 until 1913 between 50% - 90% of federal government revenue came from tariffs collected from imported goods.That all changed in 1913 when income became subject to taxation. Other countries however continue imposing tariffs on US goods imported. Japan, for example exports $50 billion of vehicles to the US while importing $853 million from the US.
Regardless of where the money comes from the federal government and states now spend huge amounts of money. Some of it outright fraud, some of legal but unwise and unethical. It's not sustainable.
 

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Hello

I am giving up.

So far, only one of the US vendors I emailed has replied to me.

Called the Purolator depot near me. I told them what I had, and they told me they will gladly help me fill in all the forms and ship it for me.
Purolator also asked me if there was steel or aluminum content involved and that there would be tariffs on that content also. That seems farfetched, but what do I know, They also told me they had no way to determine what tariffs applied.

But once it arrived at the border with Purolator, the CBP would then determine whether the value I put on it is correct, apply the applicable tariffs and send that bill to the vendor.

I assume this is why the vendor said they no longer know what to charge to ship a pump to Canada. I also assume they do not want to ship without receiving a core back

I also called a US import broker, who basically laughed and told me he could find out what the charges may be, but there was no quick answer to give me on the phone.

Also found out there "may" be a "reciprocal tariff" on rebuilt auto parts when it arrives back into Canada based on the value of the parts and labour used in the repair of the pump. This is if it is my own pump that is repaired.
Apparently, where those new parts were originally made, also has a Bering on what tariffs apply. But of course I can't find a firm answer to any of this either.

All in all, it is just f$$@! up. A business in the US just lost a paying transaction because of this mess.

But on a happier note.
My conversations with Chatham fuel injection leads me to believe I will be getting a quality rebuild from them.
But only back to stock ford settings
 

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