Balancer repair sleeve

[laserjock]

My harmonic balancer has a pretty good groove in it from riding in the seal. I see listings for repair sleeves. I'd like to get a repair sleeve and seal combo so I know they work together. Anybody have a good part number for such a thing?

The alternative is to pick up a new balancer at $75. Not out of the question but I'd rather not when I'm buying a seal either way.

Thanks!

 

[riotwarrior]

Welder up turner down...

No idea on part no sorry ...but ya sucks when gotta run speedisleeve

 

[laserjock]

Welder up turner down...

No idea on part no sorry ...but ya sucks when gotta run speedisleeve

If I had a lathe at home...

 

[Hydro-idi]

You can always install a new front cover seal that's just a hair more inside or outside of its housing it sits in. That will ensure that it won't ride in same groove that's cut into harmonic balancer from the old one. Worked for me.

 

[towcat]

My harmonic balancer has a pretty good groove in it from riding in the seal. I see listings for repair sleeves. I'd like to get a repair sleeve and seal combo so I know they work together. Anybody have a good part number for such a thing?

The alternative is to pick up a new balancer at $75. Not out of the question but I'd rather not when I'm buying a seal either way.

Thanks!

the National part is what I have been using for years with no comeback issues. comes with it's own installer and use an oem seal. done, done and done. see pic below. I've thrown in the rear sleeve and installer just for good measure too

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[laserjock]

Big thanks @towcat. Got it in the cart.

I'll go pull the install instructions but do you smear a little RTV in the groove and then press it on or does it go on dry? I know I read this somewhere before when I was looking at my rear axle seals but now I can't remember where I found it. Ended up using scot seals on them.

 

[towcat]

Big thanks @towcat. Got it in the cart.

I'll go pull the install instructions but do you smear a little RTV in the groove and then press it on or does it go on dry? I know I read this somewhere before when I was looking at my rear axle seals but now I can't remember where I found it. Ended up using scot seals on them.

i put it on the harmonic balancer dry. you could use the green loctite if you really have a burning desire to put something on

 

[riotwarrior]

i put it on the harmonic balancer dry. you could use the green loctite if you really have a burning desire to put something on

That will keep it in place uh huh...fer sure....I litterally laughed aloud when I read ^^^^ that.

No really I did

Wont come off at least.

 

[laserjock]

I would consider that a permanent repair. Bearing retainer is amazing stuff.

 

[towcat]

That will keep it in place uh huh...fer sure....I litterally laughed aloud when I read ^^^^ that.

No really I did

Wont come off at least.

glad I entertained someone today. usually it's a pretty rough audience to get to laugh. more often than not these days, they want to drop by my place to kick my ass.........

 

[riotwarrior]

glad I entertained someone today. usually it's a pretty rough audience to get to laugh. more often than not these days, they want to drop by my place to kick my ass.........

Well nothin personal but I do find alot of the things ya say sometimes entertaining but not worthy of foot to ****...but if yer looking for volunteers...dont ask me...I got a buggered knee and dunna wanna chance gettin booted from OB for Mod abuse.

 

[tbrumm]

Laserjock, I remember reading in Jim Allen and Randy Lyman's "Differential" book that if the groove is worn pretty deep, Randy fills the groove in first with some epoxy (like JB Weld or something heavy duty like that) and then sands the area down smooth before installing the speedi-sleeve. Not sure this applies in your case as the groove may not be that deep. Randy was doing this in the case of axle shafts that are deeply grooved from the seal. The theory being that the epoxy fills the groove and keeps the thin speedi-sleeve from "sinking" into the goove over time. Just regurgitating what I have read and throwing it out there!

 

[laserjock]

Thanks @tbrumm ! I thought I had read that somewhere too. It's really not bad. I had questioned the need to even mess with it but I really hate doing jobs twice when the solution is simple. I just don't want this thing to leak like a sieve. My challenge will be remember to put thread sealant everywhere it's supposed to be. Sheesh, I've never see so many bolts into oil areas. Oily exhaust manifold bolts. Really Navistar??

 

[tbrumm]

My challenge will be remember to put thread sealant everywhere it's supposed to be. Sheesh, I've never see so many bolts into oil areas. Oily exhaust manifold bolts. Really Navistar??

So the holes for the exhaust manifold bolts are actually open into an area that has oil in it? I ask because I am pulling the heads on my truck in the near future and I never would have thought I would need any sort of sealer on those. I even bought the "correct" exhaust manifold bolts from U-Haul (I think these are the "interference" fit?), but what sealer would ever hold up to the manifold heat?

 

[icanfixall]

So the holes for the exhaust manifold bolts are actually open into an area that has oil in it? I ask because I am pulling the heads on my truck in the near future and I never would have thought I would need any sort of sealer on those. I even bought the "correct" exhaust manifold bolts from U-Haul (I think these are the "interference" fit?), but what sealer would ever hold up to the manifold heat?

I do not believe any exhaust manifold bolts enter the oily side of the engine anywhere...