problem finally diagnosed

[mustangmatt89]

So around Christmass my f250 broke down and i took it to a local shop they put new glow plugs in it and then it stopped working after 2 days. The truck has been sitting in the shop and i finally went up there today and they said it was the injector pump but they don't have the equipment to fix it, but they can sub it out at the shop and he would get a price for me. I may be driving this truck veryday again so this is what I have done so far. All new brake lines, rotors drums, calipers, shoes, master cylinder. New tensioner pulley, and belt. Differentials serviced, new glow plugs new tires, new transmission lines. I am going to college and kansas and I live in maryland so i need to get this thing reliable. What other wearing parts should I have serviced or replaced. It is a 93 f250 with the e40d 4x4 regular cab. It is a 7.3 idi non turbo. Right now i have a 05 silverado but will not be able to keep it through school with the high costs of school.

 

[tractorman86]

do you trust this shop? why do they say the IP is down?

 

[mustangmatt89]

yes

this is a reputable shop, and they told me up front they don't do a lot of diesels. They had some one else come in and look at it, and thats what he said it was. The symptoms were hard starting and when it did, it would sputter and sometimes while running would sputter, they say sometimes the pump had pressure and sometimes it didn;t. I figure i could do that and the injectors and I should be in pretty good shape, then do all the hoses, service the tranny and then the transfer case. And new exhaust and I think i will be pretty good for a while.

 

[tractorman86]

sounds kinda like air getting into your return system, ie leakey injector orings, hole in the fuel line pre-fuel pump, or dying lift pump

 

[Dirtleg]

I agree with tractorman86. Sounds like air in the system and a general lack of fuel. I would be making absolutely sure the system was air tight and the lift pump was working before purchasing and paying to have a $$$ IP installed.

 

[sootman73]

i agree. a little extra time looking for leaks could save you tons of money! how many miles does the pump/truck have on it?

if the shop does very little diesel work then i would def look for leaks and test the lift pump. is yours still mechanical or is there an aftermarket electric on it?

 

[Michael Fowler]

Another vote in favor of leaking return lines and caps. ESPECIALLY if the shop is not famial with these engines. Remember, these engines are old technology--I would put more faith in the people here, than in some unknown mechanic; expert or not.

 

[Exekiel69]

Did the engine start before this? What are the symptoms?

You are not very far from Me.

 

[argve]

Yeah it sounds like air in the system to me as well. Get with Ez he's a good guy and you guys take a look at it before calling the injection pump fully bad.

 

[Agnem]

Personally, I'd pull that thing out of that shop in a big hurry! Don't let them, or their "friends" touch it. You need a genuine experienced person working on that. It's the people with the least amount of money that often get screwed the worst. It's like tornadoes and trailer parks.

 

[hesutton]

this is a reputable shop, and they told me up front they don't do a lot of diesels.

Man, that doesn't sound very good at all. There is no way I'd let them work on the truck. It sounds like they want to charge you $800 for an IP job (that they will not time properly) when all you need is likely a $40 injector return cap/line kit to fix a simple fuel/air leak.

Heath

 

[mustangmatt89]

This is probably the most reputable shop around

The truck has 240,000 miles on it, and its the original pump, I figured on replacing everything in the fuel system. When i went to use it in december it had sat for about 6 months, it would start i put 2 new batteries in it, it made all sorts of raquet when it fired up and cut off 30 seconds later, I had new glow plugs put in. It then did start but sputtered alot even when warmed up and finally it just plain would't start after 2 day I had it back and now this is april I need to get this thing completely reliable before I go to school in the fall.

 

[tractorman86]

well if money is not an issue have the IP replaced and do all the injector orings and return lines and caps

 

[typ4]

If the fuel pickup boots have fallen off you may be sucking air, Add fuel to the tanks before testing anything else. That is what it sounds like to me at this point.

 

[mustangmatt89]

I did add fuel when it happened the first time. I am going to be driving this truck from maryland to kansas a couple times a year, i need her to be reliable. So I feel an all new fuel system is in order.