IDI timing advance arm

[timothyr1014]

just installed a new ip in one of the trucks.....set it to the marks and it is acting way to advanced...actuate the arm and it starts sounding normal.

I am totally brain dead right now (and have spent the last month working on complex japanere FWD fuel injected crap)...what am i missing?

 

[dyoung14]

just installed a new ip in one of the trucks.....set it to the marks and it is acting way to advanced...actuate the arm and it starts sounding normal.

I am totally brain dead right now (and have spent the last month working on complex japanere FWD fuel injected crap)...what am i missing?

As you give more throttle that arm retards the timing, try retarding your timing some and see what it sounds like then

 

[icanfixall]

Timing without a meter is just not a good way to time these motors. The marks are just a starting point at best. Retard it some and test run it till you find what you like but... Having it timed with a meter is the best way of doing this... Finding someone that can do it and prove they did it is the hard part....

 

[timothyr1014]

what got me looking at the arm was that I couldnt retard it any further and the rattle and smoke would put a cummins to shame...at first I was thinking I was a full tooth off, but then for ***** and giggles I stuffed a piece of vacuum line behind the arm (where the throtle piece would hit it) and drove around the block...ran perfect.

 

[dyoung14]

what got me looking at the arm was that I couldnt retard it any further and the rattle and smoke would put a cummins to shame...at first I was thinking I was a full tooth off, but then for ***** and giggles I stuffed a piece of vacuum line behind the arm (where the throtle piece would hit it) and drove around the block...ran perfect.

Then the timing is absolutely too advanced

 

[timothyr1014]

could I be a full tooth off, and if so how do I fix it?

with the arm sitting in its normal position it without a doubt is acting too advanced regardless of how far a retard it (towards the drivers side)

 

[dyoung14]

could I be a full tooth off, and if so how do I fix it?

with the arm sitting in its normal position it without a doubt is acting too advanced regardless of how far a retard it (towards the drivers side)

Did you pull the gear cover? and it sounds like how my pump use to when i was messing with screws inside the pump that i shouldnt have, after i turned them back to were they was it fixed it, maybe the rebuilder sucks

 

[timothyr1014]

pump came from MWFI...dad gave me a gift certificate, and I dont have a ton of faith in them....to install I pulled the 3 bolts for timing, and the ones inside the oil fill neck...didnt pull the cover off.