Yeah a lot of people don't understand just how much time and work goes into something so small and "simple". Those rails R&D makes sounded expensive until I thought about the man hours that go into them!
Brass caps!!!
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IDIBRONCO
IDIBRONCO
I'm not so sure about that. The older I get, the easier it is to forget.Getting old and forgetful, is not easy.
david85
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IMO, those would be a steal at $250 for just the caps. Hose is cheap and can be found anywhere so I personally wouldn't care if the "soft parts" were not included for that amount. Personally I think these would be a better solution than the fuel rails previously mentioned. They just seem more fool proof.
Having said all that, I still have yet to change the caps on my truck. Someone did before I got it because they aren't grey, but 15 years later I changed the O-rings two or three times and that's about it.
Having said all that, I still have yet to change the caps on my truck. Someone did before I got it because they aren't grey, but 15 years later I changed the O-rings two or three times and that's about it.
Agreed! But it is something I'd have to budget for, for a while.
The_Josh_Bear
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I agree here, once I got Viton O rings and used grease to install them I haven't had much in the way of air issues and certainly no leaks.
Finish off the air intrusion issue with a proper check valve between fuel pump and filter header and you've got yourself a setup that won't let you down.
They aren't shiny like the brass ones though...
Edit: my return kit is from Russ, must be 6-7 years old at this point.
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david85
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I agree here, once I got Viton O rings and used grease to install them I haven't had much in the way of air issues and certainly no leaks.
Finish off the air intrusion issue with a proper check valve between fuel pump and filter header and you've got yourself a setup that won't let you down.
They aren't shiny like the brass ones though...
I sourced some Viton O-rings on the last servicing as well. One of them leaked but upon careful inspection I was able to find it had a small cut. The rest held up just fine. Even the rubber O-rings held up fairly well over the years.
Va_Mike
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That price is not bad considering it becomes a lifetime part at that point. The next thing that is nice about the brass is that at some point the plastic caps will no longer be available, and then you will wish you had a set of the brass ones.
There's many other parts that will run out of availability sooner than the plastic return line caps would, like much of the fuel injection parts which are out of production now, my return caps are made here in the usa by delphi and they dont plan on slowing down production anytime soon since its still a good seller for them. The brass caps will be sweet too!
Like the 85 E350 compatible brake booster. It seems like I got the last new one in existence. Custom order rebuilds are probably doable but flat out buying a new one is impossible.
In my opinion the hose nipple needs to be a single bump, getting old hard hose off of that barb is not fun, and when they get nicked by the knife that will be used they could leak.
BTDT
BTDT
I twist the hoses on the barbs and pull rather than cutting them. Worked on both my sets of caps without breaking then.
The grey looking ones are from the RV. Looks like I mixed in 3 of the RV's original caps with 5 of the truck's old ones. They all have a beveled edge on the bottom side where it contacts the o-rings which I think means OEM?
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IDIBRONCO
IDIBRONCO
Those all have the single bump that Russ was talking about. The brass caps have the barbed ends on them that make it next to impossible to remove old, stiff rubber hoses without cutting them. I have to agree with Russ on this one.
What about applying some heat, like from a match or grill lighter to soften the old hoses? Or even boiling water. Could drop the brass caps in a cup of boiling water.
IDIBRONCO
IDIBRONCO
That may actually work. Although I've had brand new hose that wouldn't come back off of barbed fittings after it's been installed.
Farmer Rock
just a fella' without a 10mm socket
The plus to the three barb design (to me anyway) is that it is a much tighter fit,and you probably woudn't need clamps (I overkill things though).For the amount of times the hoses have to come off,I don't think it's a big deal.
Rock
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