When your PS pump siezes up 50 miles from home...

[Macrobb]

I used a 104.5" belt for this:

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Note that the fan being missing is important if you have to do this. The waterpump is being run backwards, so the fan will try to push air backwards and you will basically have very little water pumping... Gets really hot easily with the fan in place.
Remove the fan and it works just like normal.

Tomorrow: PS pump replacement and flush time!

 

[Selahdoor]

Jeenyus!

 

[Cubey]

This is why I like v-belts.

They take more work (especially with the fan on) but you can limp on your way to a parts store easier. Worst case scenario if in a hurry, ie: in a less than safe place, you can just cut the belt off and eat the cost of it later.

I would just remove my AC belt, but its one of two for the WP/fan from the crankshaft. I'd rather not have only one on there.

 

[Macrobb]

This is why I like v-belts.

I'm seriously considering it. Only thing I'll have to rig up is an old style AC compressor to the newer truck. I think it may just need some lines from a donor truck.
I like the older style compressors better anyway - they seem a lot more reliable.
Also have to rig up a 3G alt(have one that should fit).
Good side would be doing a saginaw swap and hydroboost at the same time... That would be an improvement in any case.

They take more work (especially with the fan on) but you can limp on your way to a parts store easier. Worst case scenario if in a hurry, ie: in a less than safe place, you can just cut the belt off and eat the cost of it later.

Or, even just run it till it melts if you have to - it'll just snap and you'll still be driving.

I would just remove my AC belt, but its one of two for the WP/fan from the crankshaft. I'd rather not have only one on there.

You don't have one for your alternator and one for the PS pump?

 

[IDIoit]

now theres a drawback to hydroboost

 

[Thewespaul]

Its odd to see them just completely fail like that, must have had some debris get in there or run out of fluid, typically they just get louder and louder letting you know they need replacing soon. Nice save though, the pump is not a simple swap on the side of the road.

 

[Macrobb]

Its odd to see them just completely fail like that, must have had some debris get in there or run out of fluid, typically they just get louder and louder letting you know they need replacing soon. Nice save though, the pump is not a simple swap on the side of the road.

Oh, it definitely needed replacing soon - It had been intermittantly making lots of C2 whining noise and intermittant stiffness when turning for the past couple of weeks. I actually had a pully remover in the truck with me for exactly that reason.
Plenty of fluid in it, surprisingly; this setup hasn't been leaking unlike most I have. Replacing the pressure line last year may have had something to do with that...
Good news is I have two pumps handy; I just got so busy I couldn't get it on.

Actually, the most interesting part of this whole failure is that the bearing inside is still fine. Something fell apart internally, though, as it still only rotates 1/2 a turn or so before locking up hard. Seals didn't go either.

I'm definitely expecting some metal shavings throughout the system, so I'm going to be installing a return filter(which I bought a couple years ago to install) when I do the pump.

 

[Cubey]

You don't have one for your alternator and one for the PS pump?

It goes:

CS->WP->PS
CS->WP->AC
CS->ALT (correction: CS->WP->ALT)
ALT->VP

I'd rather have two linking the CS->WP as designed, rather than one. If the PS pump locks up or the belt breaks, I'll still have the WP/fan working off of the AC belt, until I can get it fixed. The AC isn't working right now, so it's always on idle. I doubt it's really that much more of a load on the engine anyway.

EDIT: OOOPS. I didn't realize the alt went to the WP too. I never looked that closely at the diagram. So yeah, I could remove the AC belt.

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[Macrobb]

EDIT: OOOPS. I didn't realize the alt went to the WP too. I never looked that closely at the diagram. So yeah, I could remove the AC belt.

^^ Yup.

BTW, just in case anyone is curious, I just swapped in a 'new' pump. The pump I used was one off of a V-belt truck of some sort which had evidently gotten whacked a bit there - the bracket was broken in two and the pulley was bent. So, old V-belt pulley came off, pump removed from old bracket, pump bolted into serp bracket in truck(didn't have to remove anything other than the pulley and 3 bolts to get that out either), and the new serp belt pulley(that came from my truck) pressed on.
Filled it up with Type F ATF and... she works! Not silent or anything, but I was able to spin the wheel with 1 finger on gravel at idle. Good enough for me!