I said it before, and I'll say it again...congrats!!!Oh by the way,
I'M GETTING HEAD STUDS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Head gasket question
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'94IDITurbo7.3
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i am so stoked to get studs in this thing. got my head set and valley pan today. gotta finish dinner and then i will post up some pics.
'94IDITurbo7.3
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i am getting my studs from racinNdrummin. he got me a KILLER deal on them. BIG thanks to him.
'94IDITurbo7.3
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is the valley pan supposed to be flat where it goes under the IP gear timing cover? also does that IP gear timing cover need to be removed when replacing the valley pan?
'94IDITurbo7.3
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Ok, got some pics. you can see the bend in the valley pan.
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idi_econoline
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Surprised no one has jumped on this yet, Eric, but here's a quote from senior group member icanfixall in another current thread:
"Whatever you do make sure the person that removes the pump from the engine does not remove the pump still connected to the gear and cover. No matter what you may have read on utube. Thats not the way to do the job. There is no way to truely see the gear timing marks when it goes back togehter. We have helped countless members fix this and its not an easy fix either so please talk before you do anything."
And the valley pan I just installed has a sub-valley(?) below the IP. Sure looked to me as if the valley pan just won't come out (or at least go back on intact) with the IP in place. Turns out that my injectors and IP needed replacement anyway, so no major big. Of course, removing the IP means that the timing will need to be reset.
This does requires a special timing instrument and magical wrenches to reach the IP nuts. As has been restated in some recent threads, timing "by ear" is not enough.
As for studs, I also went with them, even though I run my engine bone stock (for now...
). Prone to overkill, am I. (Bypass filter on E4OD already in place, coolant filter and bypass engine oil filter awaiting install) 
"Whatever you do make sure the person that removes the pump from the engine does not remove the pump still connected to the gear and cover. No matter what you may have read on utube. Thats not the way to do the job. There is no way to truely see the gear timing marks when it goes back togehter. We have helped countless members fix this and its not an easy fix either so please talk before you do anything."
And the valley pan I just installed has a sub-valley(?) below the IP. Sure looked to me as if the valley pan just won't come out (or at least go back on intact) with the IP in place. Turns out that my injectors and IP needed replacement anyway, so no major big. Of course, removing the IP means that the timing will need to be reset.
This does requires a special timing instrument and magical wrenches to reach the IP nuts. As has been restated in some recent threads, timing "by ear" is not enough.
As for studs, I also went with them, even though I run my engine bone stock (for now...
). Prone to overkill, am I. (Bypass filter on E4OD already in place, coolant filter and bypass engine oil filter awaiting install)
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'94IDITurbo7.3
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yeah i don't have a timing meter so i just have to wing it.
yeah i knew about the timing gear cover. looks as though that cover does not need to come off to do the valley pan.
yeah i knew about the timing gear cover. looks as though that cover does not need to come off to do the valley pan.
'94IDITurbo7.3
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any ideas on this sound guys? it does sound like hitting your hand over the end of a pipe.
idi_econoline
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Never heard an IDI make that sound, but I am familiar with it from other vehicles.
Shoot, if you've got the valley pan off, Eric, the lifters are right there, in the valley. They look pretty easy to replace.
Shoot, if you've got the valley pan off, Eric, the lifters are right there, in the valley. They look pretty easy to replace.
'94IDITurbo7.3
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how many lifters do we have? 16?
'94IDITurbo7.3
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well then, if i have a bad lifter what brands do you guys like. ford lifter are like $45/lifter. NOT going to happen. can get 16 lifters shipped to my door from rock auto for $200. they are sealed power brand.
'94IDITurbo7.3
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Bump. any ideas on this thumping sound guys?
idi_econoline
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Well, Eric, Sealed Power is a well-known brand, but I have no experience with their products. Hopefully someone else can comment on Sealed Power.
Was having trouble seeing your pics, but now I see them. That bend at the front sill of the valley pan does NOT look right. Mine is flat, as is the deck on the block the sill rests on. Shipping damage? Looks like I did not take a good pic of mine before installing.
16 is the number. When the valley pan's off, the lifter retainer is what you see holding them in. But I didn't touch mine, as my lifters seemed fine.
Was having trouble seeing your pics, but now I see them. That bend at the front sill of the valley pan does NOT look right. Mine is flat, as is the deck on the block the sill rests on. Shipping damage? Looks like I did not take a good pic of mine before installing.
16 is the number. When the valley pan's off, the lifter retainer is what you see holding them in. But I didn't touch mine, as my lifters seemed fine.
'94IDITurbo7.3
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got my return line kits and straight edge in today. there will be a slight delay in my head studs though.
