Ok, an update about the odd air filter thing on ATS 085 van kits.
Upon closer inspection, it has a silver metal piece around the edge of the filter, that's what clamps down the filter to the base. That's what has the clamp things attached, not the base. I forgot to take a picture of it while i had the doghouse open today, sorry.
But yes, near as i can figure, ATS 085 van kits did NOT come with a full domed cover over the air filter, just a piece that holds it down around the edges. No cold air intake for these!
This is just really odd. I know it would be a lot of work, but if I were you, I'd figure out an alternative setup. I really like the Hypermax cylinder, because it sits up high in the engine bay, and allows you to get access to all the injectors except 2 and 4 from the back, and you can get 1, 2, and 3 from the front. #4 is not reachable without pulling parts off. But the cylinder is still the best. The Banks air filter was awful. It blocks the entire engine bay from the front. Even just refilling the oil is a pita without a rube-goldbergy style funnel and extension.
You can see pics of these differences here:
http://www.nickpisca.com/diesel/turbo/differences-between-idi-van-turbo-kits/
Another info update:
It has a Dana 70 HD 4.10 rear end.... and a C4?! Code G! Whyyyy?? Why didn't they put a C6?
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The motorhome door jamb tag:
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Interesting-er. This makes me think even more that this was a gasser originally. The reflecting doghouse insulation was my first clue, but this might clinch it.
Its getting around 8-9mpg right now. Who knows how filthy the K&N filter is though, it could be starving for air.
The 4.10 isn't helping any but oh well. Nor does it being a massive brick.
I read that turbos on IDIs are mostly only noticeable when towing. Any truth to that? Seems like there might be, unless I'm having problems somewhere.
I had to keep reminding myself that it's still just an IDI in a motorhome despite the turbo, and that it's still got limitations on hills. If it was that kit in ny truck, then it would be another story.
Back driving my 6.9 NA C6 3.55, it feels FAST!
That turbo will be noticeable under any load. If you can, find a fellow IDI'er on this forum in your area who doesn't have a turbo. Drive that slow-ass beast up a nearby hill or mountain. Then go back to your turbo-ed RV. You'll notice the major difference.
If you are looking for boost numbers to impress the local hoochie-mamas, that's not going to be much. You are right, you will only see that sort of numberage under load, but you don't need an excessive amount of boost to wake up these engines. When I'm bumming around town, my boost usually never exceeds 4psi unless I really ham on it. But that 4psi lets me drive my IDI van with the rest of L.A. traffic, who like to get to point A and point B really quick.
Picture time!
Rear fuel tank and axle. ~30 gallon?
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Front tank:
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Those look a lot like my dual tanks on my Clubwagon. If they are, then the rear is around 21 gallons and the middle is 15. At least, that's the max I've been able to fill mine up with at the pump.
I decided not to swap the vacuum pump from the truck. I don't want to cripple it like that. I grabbed this, pretty darn good price. Its a new one, not refurbished. It's cheaper than refurbished anywhere online.
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ALWAYS keep a spare vac pump in your IDI van. They are pretty cheap if you buy one online, but if you need one on the road, they are harder and harder to find in the auto parts stores. They are small, and they easy to stow away for an emergency.
Another tip: Go find a pulley for it now. Lots of places will sell you a vac pump wihtout a pulley or with a serpentine belt pulley. Then you gotta find a way to pull the pulley on the side of the road somewhere. Tell me about it. I got stuck in Prudhoe Bay Alaska in 2013 and Prince Albert Saskatchewan in 2017 trying to pull off that darn pulley with awful Canadian Tire pullers. The only thing worse than Canadian Tire is Harbor Fright.
So, keep a spare vac pump and install the right pulley on it now. Then find a spot in the RV to keep it when it inevitably fails. It sucks to lose your brakes, tranny shifting, cruise, and climate control on a road trip.
Famous last words.
Always irks me hearing anybody say that about anything.
When it's all said and done, you will spend more than you could have had into something with way less issues. Then people say "built not bought." Uhm, only because it's a piece of crap that needed literally everything replaced. And you still won't be happy with the constant piece work.
Rant over.....
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I couldn't disagree more. Wrenching on my van is like meditation for me. I do computer programming and architectural design for a living, and I can't wait to get out of the office and work with my hands.
Plus, I can fine tune everything on my van to my liking. There are not a lot of good IDI (or diesel) mechanics on the west side of LA, so Im not entrusting my vehicle to someone with a cursory understanding of the intricacies of this beast. I get to modify my fuel system, electrical system, transmission system, exhaust, everything by working on it myself.
I'm so confident with my maintenance, that I'd be prepared to drive this van to Nova Scotia and back, with basically a day's notice. I'd check the fluids, do a few oil changes, and be good to go. If you want to do it right, do it yourself.
No. The door tag doesn't list the engine, but the VIN contains that info, and it's engine code is the 6.9L. It has the really old ATS turbo stickers on the fenders too.
Plus the dash says diesel only, has the wait to start light, etc.
It seems that Ford just changed the C6 trans mode from G to K sonetime between the 85 E350 and the 87 F250.
the engine code said 6.9.... Interesting. I've never seen that kind of insulation on a van for a diesel. maybe it came from a gasser donor van. Regardless, you might want to invest in a turbo blanket for extra peace of mind. Hate to have your RV go up in flames on a big incline.
Here are some pictures of the van kit air filter setup for the ATS 085 turbo. This makes it obvious why there is no air box lid: there is no room
The silver piece around the edge of the filter has the hold down clips, that's the extent of the air box lid. Just something to keep the air filter from bouncing out.
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I personally wouldn't like this setup, but everyone has their own tastes. Here's the hypermax cylinder style air filter:
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Lots of room to reach in and find stuff.
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