Anyone have a Gear Vendors on a 93 or newer??

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I was looking at the GV That came on the 88 I just bought and it has the speedo cable running through a signal amp. then in the GV.
My question is how does that work?
On my 93 there is no speedo cable.
What am I missing or need?????:confused:
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John
 

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John, call Jeffrey Kubizna at Gear Vendor 1-800-999-9555. He's a super nice guy and can answer all your questions. Ask him to send you a manual and he'll send you one for free. Ignore what I said about the adapter, since you are taking it off one BW1356 transfer case and bolting it onto another. Also, if you tell the Jeffrey the serial # he can tell you when the unit was made.
 

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skimball what kind of milage do you get with the gv, your truck is set up just about the same as mine only i've got 35" tires i get 12-14 maybe 15 on a good day
 

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I get a steady 17 mpg. I don't use first and am in double OD before I hit 55 mph. Your ride height can't be helping your mileage.
John, I looked in my manual for electronic speedo installation, and all I see is details about a GM installation.
Also, since you are going to be putting the unit from an auto into a manual trans, you are gonna need the hand switch that mounts to the shifter instead of the foot switch. Anyone riding in my truck always asks what the red hand switch is for, and I either tell them its for the rocket launcher or ejector seat.
 

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John,
just plug off the hole that is there if ther is one.
the 93 picks up the speedo off of the rear end, gear ratio in trans, or rear end for that fact dont affect it, only tire size does.
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The GV needs a speed signal for the Autodrive function which the automatic units have, which you don't need with the 5 speed, and it keeps the unit from coming on below 20 on both transmissions. In my old truck with the C6, I left the switch on all the time and OD would automatically come on at 45 mph and the unit would turn off at 20. My ZF-5 I turn it on manually when I need it and have to turn it off manually when I'm done and always when I come to stop- it won't turn off automatically. Here's what the manual says-

"The autodrive control box is fed a signal by the signal generator attached to the speedo cable. From the control box a signal is sent to the dash mounted green light, and then to the manual on/off switch, the signals final destination is to the solenoid on the GV unit. The unit activates once ground is supplied, so +12v should always be present at the solenoid when ignition is turned on."

So, it uses the signal to keep it from turning on below 20 mph as it has insufficient hydraulic pressure and you can damage it. That's why they say to not use it to split 1st and 2nd and never in reverse. However you still have to turn the hand switch off when you come to a stop which is stupid, so as long as you don't try using it below 20 you should be fine without the speed signal it uses to keep from powering up. IIRC the automatic box has a manual position on the switch, doesn't it?
 

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That's correct. The speed sensor for the GV is a cable from the GV to the sensor, and then it doesn't go anywhere else. I have mine just tucked up in the frame rail. With 4.10's, the GV's usable speed range is much lower than with 3.54's. Somewhere around 7MPH on Lady Moose.
 

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SOOOO what you are saying ..... Is

That's correct. The speed sensor for the GV is a cable from the GV to the sensor, and then it doesn't go anywhere else. I have mine just tucked up in the frame rail. With 4.10's, the GV's usable speed range is much lower than with 3.54's. Somewhere around 7MPH on Lady Moose.

So what you are saying is I dont need anything else?
What kind of switch do you have They say I need a hand switch instead of a foot switch.
can I just buy some kind of switch ?
How about a 2 speed splitter switch?
 

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That's exactly what it is. An Eaton single pole single throw switch and a nice clamp that mounts it on the stick. You wouldn't need any electronics at all, just 12 volts going to the solenoid. BUT.... forget to drop it out of OD when you drop below "terminal volocity" JUST ONCE, and you take hundreds of miles off the clutches.
 

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Understanding

OK The set up I have is for a Automatic.
On the dash switch it has manuel and auto. I would think now putting it on a manuel I would have to have the switch in the manuel pos. so it wouldnt try to shift by it self . Right??:confused:
If I move the foot switch to the shifter, All I would do is push in the clutch and pull st switch for overdrive Right??:confused:
SO Basicallt it would be used like a 2 speed rear??:confused:
When I get home from work I am going to attemp the install.:thumbsup:

Does anyone know what fluid to put in ,It looks like there is ATF in it now?:hail

Also the coupler on the shaft there is a deep end and shallow does anyone rember which side goes whitch way?:hail

I cancelled my $300.00 order with GV and going to try it Kindda the Mel way.
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John
 

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John, that thing takes a very specific lube. You have your choice between a GM or Chrysler flavor, and in either dino or synthetic. The GM flavor is what I run, and it is sold as their rear axle mineral oil. I have the part number at home, and need to get them posted to the parts bin for reference. You can call GV for the part numbers if you want to stop at the Pontiac dealer on your way home. (I always wear a dark low brimmed hat, dark glasses, an overcoat, and drive a borrowed car to get it. LOL )
 

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Yeah John, that sounds like you got it figured out. Leave it on manual and do it with your hand, but that footswitch may be a *****. I'd try to find a switch that's really easy to pull. I would have to stomp my old footswitch repeatedly to get it to click, that why I left it on all the time.
I don't recall the coupler. Can you take a pic? That might jog my memory.
 

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John,

I have the installation manual for my GV that I installed about a month ago in my hand. There is a stick-on notice on the cover of the manual that says "FLUID UPDATE: Use GM#12346190 or MOPAR #04874459 Synthetic Gear Oil. GM#1052271 Petroleum based gear oil is allowed but results in a firmer shift". I used the GM synthetic fluid and it takes a little less than two quarts for mine that has the larger pan. $44.00 for two quarts at the GM dealer - Ouch!!

Jim
 
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John,

I have the installation manual for my GV that I installed about a month ago in my hand. There is a stick-on notice on the cover of the manual that says "FLUID UPDATE: Use GM#12346190 or MOPAR #04874459 Synthetic Gear Oil. GM#1052271 Petroleum based gear oil is allowed but results in a firmer shift". I used the GM fluid and it takes a little less than two quarts for mine that has the larger pan. $44.00 for two quarts at the GM dealer - Ouch!!

Jim

I found that out when I called GV and then called the local GM dealer It was $22.00 a Quart.:puke:
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John
 

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