The $4 fan clutch fix

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As some may remember I recently completed an engine rebuild and upgrade but on my first good test drive I suffered from the infamous dead fan clutch problem and had to limp back home. This was quite frustrating as I had what seemed to be about the only solid functional idi fan clutch - it would lock up solidly by about 210* and was very effective in engine cooling. Since time was an issue I wound up buying a new OEM clutch but was not happy with the higher engagement temp and what seemed to be a less effective lock up - I think a midget with a small chinese fan duct taped to the bumper might have almost been more effective. :rolleyes:

So I started thinking and doing some research since it seemed like the only thing wrong with the old clutch was that it was low on fluid - surely there'd be a way to refill it. Turns out there is. I found several articles referencing a 1975 Toyota TSB that covers refilling the fan clutch and adapted the procedure a bit. It's rather more guess and check, but it seemed to work.

The toyota tsb references 3 part numbers: 08816-03001, 08816-06001, and 08816-10001 for 3,000, 6,000 & 10,000 Cse (a measure of viscosity- higher is thicker) fluids. It is unclear which is the correct viscosity, and the quantity is also a question. Somewhere I found mention of 50 cc, and this is what I used but it appears that this may have been too much based on performance. I would try ~30 cc. Apparently the Toyota fluid is quite pricey, but I also found a reference that said that rc car shock or differential fluid was essentially the same thing, so what I wound up using was 10,000 Cse rc car fluid - it was $4 for a 50cc bottle. I'd thought shock oil would be closer to what was originally in there, but the stuff I wound was speced in SAE oil weights (ie 30wt) rather than Cse and I didn't mess around with converting, just got the silicone differential oil.

The procedure to refill is quite easy. The other articles I found discussed removing the center spring and pin and using that hole, but I couldn't get it to come out easily so I drilled a hole in the front face about 1 1/4" out from the center. On my clutch there was a small (~1/8") hex bushing here that I thought might have been the original fill plug but now I'm not sure since it seemed to be cast in. It worked well though. There was about a 1/4" deep space behind there that appears to be circular and could be drilled into anywhere. I suspect this is the return cavity.

Once the hole was drilled it was a simple matter to use a small syringe (left over from horse vaccines, might be able to get one from the drug store or local feed store if you don't have one already) to pump the oil into the clutch. Once I put all the oil in I found a sheet metal screw that looked like it'd fit well and cut it off to about 1/4" in length, then coated in in RTV and screwed it in.

And the results: The repaired clutch does now work. In fact it works too well - it never completely disengages now. I suspect I used too much or maybe too thick of fluid. ;p This is much better than not working at all though. I still plan to convert to an electromagnetic clutch eventually, but I am very happy with how this worked out and figure others on here can benefit.

The $64 question is of course how long it's going to last. I think in most cases these clutches fail from gradual leakage over time, so refilling them should extend their life quite a while. If there's a more serious leak though life will obviously be shorter. Likewise if there's some other failure in the clutch. I would bet that 75% or more of the failed clutches could be fixed this way, at least to get some more life out of them.

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Great posting. Are you seeing leakage from the seal shaft area. If so I hope your refill lasts a long time. Usualy the shaft seal starts leaking and thats the end of the clutch.
 

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hmm. I've never "felt" my clutch lockup. when towing hard the EGTs will hit 1000-1100 and the coolant will climb to 220-225 and stay there till I level off then it floats around 200-210. wonder if my clutch is tired. wonder if a small pipe plug could be used instead of sealer, that close to the center I doubt 3000 RPMs would throw it off balance.

Gatorman, what do they do pump grease in there?
 

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I've got what looks like a little leakage around the shaft seal but I don't think it's that bad. The fan clutch looks like it's from about 1995 so that's a pretty good lifespan. I figure even if it leaks out and only lasts another year or 2 that's still way better than buying a $150 wimpy clutch every few years. In my case I think it leaked from sitting around while I was rebuilding the engine.

6.9, that sounds like it's working ok too me. If it was going bad you'd see higher temps and they'd never level off. I think many of these clutches don't fully lock up, or if they do it's gradual enough you can't really hear the change. I wouldn't mess with it, those temps sound fine to me.
 

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You mentioned that you might have used to thick of an oil because you don't see it fully disengage...I notice that when I first fire mine up during cold weather; it will stay locked up for a few mins till it warms up and then I hear it disengage. Whatever is in there must be too thick. or maybe nothing in thereLOL
 

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You mentioned that you might have used to thick of an oil because you don't see it fully disengage...I notice that when I first fire mine up during cold weather; it will stay locked up for a few mins till it warms up and then I hear it disengage. Whatever is in there must be too thick. or maybe nothing in thereLOL

That is perfectly normal
 

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If you see the box a fan clutch comes packed in there is a message on the box telling you "this side up". I recall something about storage about ruining them if they are placed shaft seal down. Supposedly the fluid will leak past the seal or something about the fluid will cross into the other area in the fan. Having never taken one apart I can't confirm this. I know I store my spare fan clutch with the spring facing down and the big nut facing up. I still than you for doing this and shareing it with all of us. Seems like an easy fix that has been long overlooked here.:thumbsup:
 

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hmm. I've never "felt" my clutch lockup. when towing hard the EGTs will hit 1000-1100 and the coolant will climb to 220-225 and stay there till I level off then it floats around 200-210. wonder if my clutch is tired. wonder if a small pipe plug could be used instead of sealer, that close to the center I doubt 3000 RPMs would throw it off balance.

Gatorman, what do they do pump grease in there?

Yeah that was the idea. Same concept as what jaluhn has but a different fix.
 

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Icanfixall, I remember seeing something similar except I think it was to always store with the nut down...... :dunno I would store it sideways - same orientation as it is on the engine.

6.9, I forgot to add that I used a screw with sealer, not just RTV. You could probably take it out and refill. I don't think the metal is thick enough to reliably take a thread, there's not really enough space there for a pipe plug and I think tightening the plug would cause cracking (taper thread). Finally, there's not enough depth beyond the front face to insert a tap.

I'd think grease would be too thick to really work well. Or you might run into problems with it thinning out too much at high temperatures causing slippage. As I understand it, the main reason for using silicone fluid is that it's viscosity is stable over a wide temperature range.
 

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I did this with a 22R that I had. It is somewhat popular with the Toyota crowd. I experienced the same results, it worked very well but never totally disengaged. I think I used too much fluid.
 

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So far as fan-clutch storage, I have always been told to only store them in the vertical orientation, just as if they were on an engine.




Of course, so far as I am concerned, the best place for a fan-clutch is in a sink-hole, way on the back-side of the farm.
 

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Icanfixall, I remember seeing something similar except I think it was to always store with the nut down...... :dunno I would store it sideways - same orientation as it is on the engine.
In the M-B diesel world, I was told that you should store the clutch vertical, the same way as it's mounted on the engine, whenever possible...and, when you have no choice but to put it horizontal, put the mount surface down. OTOH, M-B fan clutches have a flat spring in the front that moves a metering pin, and if you store it "face down", the fluid will leak out from around the metering pin.

I had always been under the impression that all fan clutches should be stored adhering to these rules, but I was told recently that Ford fan clutches should be stored face down. So, I don't know... :dunno:

I've been lucky so far; my fan clutch was replaced in the early to mid 90's and works perfectly; engages solidly between 200 and 210 degrees and it sounds like there's a jet engine under the hood ;Sweet
 

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Can't think of any reason storing it vertically (or sideways as I said - vertical is a better term) would be bad. The only places it'd leak are the shaft seal at the back and the valve seat at on the front, so vertical *should* prevent any possibly of leakage.

Can't find anything in any of my service manuals about it though. The new aftermarket clutch I got had no orientation markings on the box either.

The real long term fix is a positive control clutch, (electromagnetic or air) but that's going to be about $500....
 

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