F 350 compared to F 250 for towing n hauling. Or even 450

[Moretorque]

At what towing point do you get a 350 over a 250 for hauling and towing, at what point do you go 450.

I know a 450 is considerably more truck.

 

[jwalterus]

At what towing point do you get a 350 over a 250 for hauling and towing, at what point do you go 450.

when you can afford one.....

 

[Moretorque]

That's not true, I like the girly man 150 myself. I only get what I need for the job. I'm a car ***!

 

[GOOSE]

250's and 350's don't really offer much difference, 450 is a different story. I would say when you are in business and on the road 6 days a week you owe it to the general public to have a tow vehicle set up so the tail isn't wagging the dog. Yes, I have had my F350 grossed at 28,000lbs and even had a K5 Blazer grossed at 26,000lbs once That does not mean its safe or the right thing to do.

I'd say the 250's and 350's are good for 10,000lbs on the bumper, 14,000 on a GN or 5th wheel. I've seen 450's towing 9 ton tags and they really don't look lout of place doing it.

The biggest issue is being legit in the eyes of the law. The dealership should be able to give you hard numbers on what these rigs were rated for.

 

[franklin2]

I see Dodge is selling a new truck that grosses over 26000lbs. Does that mean you need a CDL to drive that pickup? Does that also mean I can take it down and use it for the test to acquire a CDL? Is there a thread on this somewhere that I have missed?

 

[ah1988ford]

I see Dodge is selling a new truck that grosses over 26000lbs. Does that mean you need a CDL to drive that pickup? Does that also mean I can take it down and use it for the test to acquire a CDL? Is there a thread on this somewhere that I have missed?

If it says anything 26,001 or over on the door sticker than yes. I doubt any of their pickups
have that high of a gvrw on the door tag, its probably a marketing thing.I am sure its all in the fine print.

The 350's (5 leaf and one overload) just have one more rear leaf spring than the 250's (4leafs mabey a overload?) ... im pretty sure that is the only diffrence.

 

[brokeasajoke]

I can say that a dually tows much better in my opinion than single rear wheels. Ican tell a big difference but that is just my opinion.
Love my 350 ( until i buy tires )

 

[franklin2]

Yes, I looked on their site, and the Ram 3500 has a max TOWING capacity of 30,000 lbs. So I guess that's not the same as a HAULING capacity of over 26,000. In other words you can't put 26,001 in the bed of that truck. I don't know what I was thinking.

 

[GOOSE]

Any truck and trailer that has a combined weight over 26,000 will require a CDL. It is vague and suspect to interpretation but any rig with a trailer over 10,000lbs falls under CDL range as well, at least thats how it was outlined to me.

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[Moretorque]

I can say that a dually tows much better in my opinion than single rear wheels. Ican tell a big difference but that is just my opinion.
Love my 350 ( until i buy tires )

That is what I have been told, a 350 because of the 2 more tires is much more stable in rear from sway when loaded heavy. I just wanted to get the 250 boys to start chiming in so we can rip on their girly mobiles.

 

[towcat]

in the pond I play in, the F450 is considered a baby truck. still, as long as it fits my needs, it gets run.
for the sake of argument, you need to divide what you are hauling in the truck itself and what you are pulling behind you.
if it's in the bed, there's very little difference between f250 and f350 SRW. you have 8600 to 9600 GVW(gross vehicle weight) with some to 10k. a F450 can take the load to 15k.
if it is towed behind you, you are looking at GCVWR(gross combined weight rating). a f250 and f350 SRW share pretty much the same rating depending on how it's optioned. F350 DRW 4x2 is good to 18k combined with a fiver or GN setup. F350 4x4 offers a more stable platform due to the solid front axle. I consider this setup the "baby F450" due to the similarities of a solid front axle. The F450 is the king of the hill due to the combination of solid front and rear axles. and with the addition of factory 4 wheel disc brakes. in the tow truck world, ford dominated for over ten years with the F450 until 1999 when they came out with the redesigned F450 and F550. in the past, you have stopping and handling. now you have the power to get past those two. the downside, is the driver became overconfident and the shops started seeing towtruck rollover accidents due to the trucks getting away from the driver.
i've done big too. think 40ft three axle with 18speed gearbox behind 625hp. this is pulling a 65' long three axle conventional with a 53' ****** trailer pushin 80k. we are at a gross combined of 130k/lb coming out of the city of San Francisco. with over 100feet of truck, nobody around you is happy at all.

 

[Ruger_556]

I see Dodge is selling a new truck that grosses over 26000lbs. Does that mean you need a CDL to drive that pickup? Does that also mean I can take it down and use it for the test to acquire a CDL? Is there a thread on this somewhere that I have missed?

Yes but you wouldn't get your air brakes endorsement that way.

 

[Ruger_556]

If it says anything 26,001 or over on the door sticker than yes. I doubt any of their pickups
have that high of a gvrw on the door tag, its probably a marketing thing.I am sure its all in the fine print.

The 350's (5 leaf and one overload) just have one more rear leaf spring than the 250's (4leafs mabey a overload?) ... im pretty sure that is the only diffrence.

350's have a D60 front and 4" blocks in the rear. 250's have D50 and 2" rear block... Only difference in Pre-97

 

[Moretorque]

What about the 2 additional tires for stopping ?

 

[Ruger_556]

What about the 2 additional tires for stopping ?

Not every 350 is a dually... I was thinking we were talking SRW trucks