IT'S HERE! MOOSE TV - Moose injectors!

[Agnem]

IDI trucks are still Cheap around here, cause they are all rusted out. If you really want one Scott, I'd think a grand would buy you a good runner. Graham just bought the Scarlet Moose with 90K original miles for $1100. Thing runs like a top. I see Bronco's for sale all over. Just do it.

As for upgrade kits, the problem is this. A new nozzle is only $5 cheaper than a whole injector. It's not financially viable.

 

[1994IDI]

Awesome mel. I look forward to seeing some guys get these in, in the near future.

 

[david85]

I don't suppose there is any possibility of mass producing these things if they prove successful?

CNC machines are getting cheaper these days....you know, with all the factories closing down

If things continued to go well for me up here, I think a moose pump is at the very least in order. I don't really need new injectors, but oh man these are so cool.

 

[jimraelee]

Nice work Mel, more contributions for the IDI community...

 

[Agnem]

I doubt there will ever be enough demand to mass produce them. There is always the issue of wanting and having. I've been doing Moose Pumps for a long time now, but there is still only about a dozen of them out there, but probably 4 dozen that want them. The injectors will be the same I'm sure. If I make 4 sets by the end of the year I'll be surprised.

 

[jimraelee]

Mel... I'm at a loss... I've a stock turbo fresh rebuild (thx Russ), low miles motor ( 63k) no cooler... would a moose pump and injectors really help??? More fuel means more heat and I've no way to dissipate this... Ive seen some questions before asked but no real answers.... I know your not out to make a quick buck, so your answers are not $$$ motivated. Another 50-100 hp would be nice. Obviously I I'm not expecting that from a pump and inj alone... a new turbo might be needed and a cooler

 

[Agnem]

If you've turned your pump up all the way and you still have some room for your EGT's to climb, then yes a Moose Pump will help. A Moose Pump can also give you some shorter term power gains, but the EGT's will always catch up to you on a stock motor. What is needed to get the most out of Moose Pump is a lot of boost and an intercooler. That said, I run a Moose Pump on the Moose Truck, and appreciate the extra fuel when I think I can get away with it. I'm still wanting to add an intercooler pretty badly, as I think there is a lot of power laying there without it. More boost... well, that's up to my headgaskets to decide.

 

[Darrin Tosh]

You could also cool it with the correct Water **** Injection system and get a little more power to boot.

 

[DeepRoots]

I don't have an intercooler and the moose pump doesn't overheat anything.
I have to work on burning fuel to get it up past 800 for more than a short bit.

 

[pmelah]

Mel will a stock pump handle your injectors i have a completely stock motor no upgrades but plan on doing some upgrades to it in the future it has 260k on it and i have to replace the E4OD first but once that is done im looking to do new pump inj. turbo and then install a new intercooler on my 94 IDI (will that be hard ?)oh im new to this site and read the thread on the rally i wont be able to go (wish i could) but maybe next year i can meet yall and learn a little something about my IDI diesel turbo thanks for any answer you can give in advance

Oh if it will work with stock pump how much will you be selling them for so i can start saving for them now i should have the money buy the time you make your 4th set if thats done by mid fall

 

[Agnem]

Yes, they should work fine with a stock pump. Price is still TBD. Should know something soon. An intercooler is not a hard job if you don't have the wide rad like the early non-AC trucks had.

 

[pmelah]

my truck has A/C it doesn't cool right now got a leak in it have to find that fix it boil the system and recharge it but that's another project for another day real soon got to have that here in the south but glad to know putting an intercooler in is not a hard job and i assume you will let us all know when you have a price on the injectors one last question how much for a moose pump

 

[david85]

You could also cool it with the correct Water **** Injection system and get a little more power to boot.

If I ever decide EGTs are too high, that is the route I will take. My understanding is that a well set up water injection system will out perform a well set up intercooler in every way.

 

[Diesel JD]

I had wondered if a water injections system would function as well as an intercooler for reducing the EGTs and charge air temps. I know a cold air intake would help some but not enough probably.

 

[pmelah]

I will be building HOD (hydrogen on demand generators) for my 95 4.9 F150 sons 98 4.0 Ford Explorer the wife's 99 Cheby suburban 3fitty and my 87 mazda B2000 I know they will help motor run cooler smoother and add some horse to it but I did not think it would cool off enough on my 7.3 (which will also get one)