stock firewall support for the brake and clutch master

[IDIoit]

calling all spelling ****'s! cough @sherwin johnson cough

so, im looking at my firewall today, and the outter support is pulling away from the firewall
someone put bolts through the cowl to try to strengthen it.

i have Jasons firewall reinforcement, but im thinking about making a plate for the outside as well.
i cut that area out of another truck i scrapped, but i think making a whole new plate is called for...

what do you think?

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[ironworker40]

I remember a discussion on this and someone was doing the same thing and it was determined that the plate had to be on the inside because you are trying to push the master off the firewall toward engine when you push down on clutch pedal. The plate on the outside was for looks. But I feel if it is bolted, or preferable welded, thru two plates and firewall it has to help. So I vote yes, do it.

 

[laserjock]

Overkill, thy name is IDIoit.

The plate on the inside is taking all the load. As long as it's all bolted together solidly,I don't see any reason to add anything else. If it makes you feel better, weld it in.

 

[IDIoit]

you can never have overkill in vehicles and firearms..


i honestly dont like the looks of the outside of it.
and its sub par to me...

the way the outside support is spot welded and seam sealed
i have some 1/8" i can make a front plate, grind the old one off.
and fully weld it.

i also want to go through and weld up all of the random holes put there by previous owners.
i can also delete computer access, stock wiring connector hole. and antenna.
i have the heater box out, so.. why not?

better to do before paint lol

 

[riotwarrior]

Remove outside piece...clean it and either get structeral adhezive or weld it back i to place and seam seal it.

Add plate to inside per my write up with ..... you guessed it structural adhesive. And Bob's yer uncle


JM7.3CW

 

[IDIoit]

structural adhesive JM6.9CW

you mean MIG WELD

 

[riotwarrior]

you mean MIG WELD

Ok

JM0.035WW

Or is that 0.023 wire worth?

 

[IDIoit]

JY0.030WW

 

[sjwelds]

Ack! Ack! I've been mentioned! The sky is falling! yeah .030 and your POS Lincoln

 

[IDIoit]

hater

 

[IDIoit]

really glad i addressed this...
now i can fix rusted/broken spots, and reinforce, never having an issue in my lifetime again!
backed with Jasons piece, it will be mucho betorro!

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[laserjock]

I guess that's one way to solve the problem. You could, now that you have a template make one that would align the hydroboost to a standard brake pedal....

Weld it on and use it as a template to drill the holes to move the master down (or up can't remember). Just a random thought.

Nope scratch that. me being stupid. those are the bolts for the pedal box too right? Have to have two sets of bolts and that's plain silly.

 

[IDIoit]

I guess that's one way to solve the problem. You could, now that you have a template make one that would align the hydroboost to a standard brake pedal....

Weld it on and use it as a template to drill the holes to move the master down (or up can't remember). Just a random thought.

Nope scratch that. me being stupid. those are the bolts for the pedal box too right? Have to have two sets of bolts and that's plain silly.

actually, that may be an option,
if the pedal is somewhere along the lines of 9/16" higher, the hydroboost should be also.
needing that dimension changed on the vacuum pedal to the hydro pedal.
i will have to mock stuff up tomorrow and see how that is,
i just may remake that plate.

tis is why i love this site. alot of great minds coming together.
giving so many options.
thanks man! ill post back tomorrow after a full day of wrenching.

M-T are my work/baby days, but i usually get an hour to work on her for lunch.
tomorrow, its all truck!

 

[laserjock]

But aren't the bolts for the booster the same that go through the pedal box? Could weld studs on either side I guess.

 

[IDIoit]

in my mind,
theres a reason the bolt together Fsuperdutyrequires a different pedal, now if that difference is the holes, or jist the pin, thats TBD.
but wouldnt it be great if it was just the pin?