Oil Thread...Again

[NCheek]

Walmart / Supertech is CI rated. I'll probably convert from Rotella to Supertech on my next oil change, but I am also going to give the ole' girl a dose of Auto Rx to see if I can't slow down on my blow-by a little.

 

[HammerDown]

My crankcases are now Arab free! Nothing but the best PA home grown stuff for me. CI rated.

http://www.bradpennracing.com/Products/HDPremDieselOil.html

That's great you're with Brad Penn (original Kendall) Mel, I too am using it in the Harley, Jet Boat and Vette> But I have to special order it $$$

 

[vegas39]

So after I read this thread earlier, I stopped by autozone and the only oil that didnt have the cj-4 mark was a generic costal brand. I did see a rotella straight 30 weight that didnt have the cj-4 mark, is this o.k. to use? If not, I guess I will have to buy the costal brand.

 

[MIDNIGHT RIDER]

Brad Penn (original Kendall)

I didn't know that^^^^^^^^^^^.

I did know that Kendall got swallowed by CONOCO-Phillips, but they still market all three trade-names, CONOCO, Phillips 66, and Kendall, in CI-4-rated 15W-40.



If I didn't have to mail-order it, I would also be using the "GREEN" oil.

 

[MIDNIGHT RIDER]

My crankcases are now Arab free! Nothing but the best PA home grown stuff for me. CI rated.

http://www.bradpennracing.com/Products/HDPremDieselOil.html

Well, there ain't nothing sacred anymore :


http://www.amref.com/bp_pb/7196_BP_HD_Premium_PLUS_DEO_PB.pdf



Read the API-rating on what used to be a good oil.

 

[zukinut]

Heres my deal. Rotella is a QUALITY oil. Been around for a long time. It now has the wrong rating but is still a quality oil. Walmart oil has the correct rating, BUT who makes it. Whats in it that can make it so much cheaper.

Ive run valvoline in gassers my whole life, dad has done the same. Those motors that weve run valvoline in stayed clean. I can tell you there is a BIG difference in brands of oil. Other than there ratings. So i guess now i need to find a quality oil with the correct rating. Green oil sounds good, but that is a dye, correct? What is that dye doing to things.

Just asking questions. Not trying to offend anyone.

Thanks in advance,
Will

 

[rodymartin]

I have been using Delo 400 for 30 years now. My dad used it before that in the logging trucks and equipment.

 

[HammerDown]

... Green oil sounds good, but that is a dye, correct? What is that dye doing to things.

Just asking questions. Not trying to offend anyone.

Thanks in advance,
Will

Will...the "original Kendall" oil from what I remember in the late 60's,70's, 80's early 90's was one of the MOST respected oils ever produced and it was made from the BEST Crude oil ever from Pennsylvania. Kendall always had the higher levels of Zinc and Phosphorus.
Before it was "green"...it was purple!
The "dye" never did anything to hurt a engine...but people who knew, wanted the "Green" stuff in their engines!
Read below for yourself...the original Kendall formula is now produced by Brad Penn.

Penn Grade 1® Racing Oils

The term “100% Pure Pennsylvania Grade Crude Oil” has long carried with it an industry connotation for being one of the best sources of high quality lubricant base stocks in the world. Our BRAD PENN® refinery, the oldest continuously operating lube oil refinery in the United States, still refines 100% Pennsylvania grade crude oil. PA grade crude oil is a very thermally stable paraffinic crude oil which contains no asphaltic constituents. This makes it an ideal choice from which to refine premium quality base oils. Because we use only one crude stock, our refined products are of consistently high quality and performance.

BRAD PENN® brand products are truly “MADE IN THE U.S.A.” American Refining Group’s Bradford, PA refinery is the home of “The Green Oil®” that racers, engine builders and enthusiasts alike have all come to know and love! The unique green color and outstanding performance of our Penn Grade 1 Racing oils set them apart from the competition.

BRAD PENN® Penn Grade 1® Racing Oils are formulated using a unique base oil cut from our tower, which gives our Penn Grade 1® racing oils exceptional film strength. This unique base oil causes our Penn Grade 1®racing oil to cling tenaciously to engine parts to minimize wear during high engine torque loading and/or periods of heavily stressed operation such as those experienced during competition. This same oil ‘cling’ helps prevent ‘dry-start’ conditions to minimize wear even after the engine has been sitting idle for extended periods.

BRAD PENN® Penn Grade 1® Racing Oils also contain highly effective detergent and dispersant additives to guarantee exceptional engine cleanliness as well as oxidation and foam inhibitors that offer protection against thermal degradation and air entrainment.

In addition to our unique base oil cut, increased concentration of “zinc” (zinc dialkyldithiophosphate a.k.a. ZDDP) provides outstanding anti-wear/anti-scuffing protection for engines employing either ‘flat tappet’ or roller cams. BRAD PENN® Penn Grade 1® Racing Oils have been evaluated by a number of premiere camshaft manufacturers with tremendous success. Many are now recommending our Penn Grade 1® racing oils to provide outstanding protection for their ‘flat tappet’ or roller cams.

The American Refining Group, Inc. offers a comprehensive line of BRAD PENN® lubricants such as gear oil, grease and other items to meet the majority of racing needs. We also offer a complete line of lubricants for today’s passenger car, fleet, commercial and industrial applications.

The Brad Penn® Penn Grade 1® Racing Oils contain the higher level of anti-wear (ZDDP – zinc dialkyldithiophosphate) and enhanced film strength so critical to proper high performance engine protection. The Penn-Grade 1® oils “typical” 1,500 ppm Zinc (Zn) and 1340-1400 ppm Phosphorus (P) content provide the needed anti-wear protection to critical engine parts, such as piston/cylinder walls, roller cams under heavy valve spring pressure and especially those that employ a solid “flat tappet” type system. As important as the chemistry is to the Penn-Grade 1® oils, it is by no means the whole story. The unique base oil cut used to refine the Penn-Grade 1® Racing Oils maintain a tremendous affinity to metal surfaces. This naturally occurring “metal wetting” characteristic enables the oil to stay put on your highly stressed engines and makes the Penn-Grade 1® Racing Oil resist slinging for an extended period of time. Also, rest assured in knowing that the Penn-Grade 1® Racing Oils are 100% Made in the USA.

 

[tractorman86]

i'm runnin dello till i get my AMSOIL system. i will run a short interval of auto RX then i will do amsoil's flush then all syn for me. by the way we just became an amsoil dealer.

 

[zukinut]

How much is the archer stuff. How about the brad green stuff?

Will

 

[jhnlennon]

I heard that they were replacing the zinc with moly(which is a much harder substance and tends to imbed itself in the metal providing a micro thin wear surface. It is also more expensive) that came from a local oil distributor. Not sure if it is true though. I also attest to schaffers oil and I encourage anyone to try it. I put it in all my lawn equipment and I cant even begin to tell you how much better the stuff makes them run. It drastically reduced operating temps in my simplicity lawn tractor, and made a huge diferreance in my snowblower and its starting. Every vehicle I have put it in I have noticed lower operating temps and higher oil pressure at operating temp. Its just good stuff. A good palce to check out is bob the oil guy's website http://www.bobistheoilguy.com/ if you havent already. ALOT of oil information and tests. There is also a good section on lucas products too http://www.bobistheoilguy.com/images/lucas/lucas.htm not good of stuff in my opinion or his. There is a wealth of info on this site about different oils. And if the oil is labeled with a CI-4 spec doesnt it have to conform to that even if it is listed with the CJ-4 spec also? It seems to me that it would have to at least meet the minimum requirements for wear and what not to have that labeled on the bottle. Last I checked rotella had both specs printed on the bottle.

 

[jhnlennon]

I was just on the bob the oil guy website under the UOA section in the forums and much to my surprize, there are alot of good results with new CJ-4 oils. It appears that the new formula is just as good as the old one. There are alot of UOA reports to prove it. You guys gotta check that site out. Its amazing(at least to a gear head like me anyway!)

 

[k_williams1982]

I changed the oil in the F350 as soon as I got it running, and used Castrol Heavy Duty 15W40. I didn't even check the rating thing because I didn't know that there was a difference... What type of grade should I be looking for?

 

[CDX825]

I changed the oil in the F350 as soon as I got it running, and used Castrol Heavy Duty 15W40. I didn't even check the rating thing because I didn't know that there was a difference... What type of grade should I be looking for?

CI-4

 

[Ironman03R]

Yes the oil has to be backwards compliant if they quit making the old rating. Guys they cant just stop making oil for older trucks. If that happened and everyone had engine problems that would mean a HUGE lawsuit for the oil manufacture.