i hate the E4OD!!!

[94f450sd]

well yall know my tranny died back in june or july.i finally had it rebuilt a couple weeks ago.well here i am needing it done again!!!converter is rattling,wont run under 320 degrees.now i gotta yank it out again and bring it back to be fixed and deal with that freeking ATS junk as well i gotta fix the leaks from that waste of money while the tranny is out again.

its supposed to be a heavy duty triple disk converter.it also had a shift kit put in it.i dont understand why it blew up again in only a few weeks of useing it

 

[Optikalillushun]

silly question, was the cooler in the rad (and external if equipped) flushed really good?

my dad has the E4OD in his 95 F150 rebuilt and 2 weeks later needed it again. the converter took a ****, turns out the PCM was bad and had the TC locking and unlocking in the wrong times...nudder thing to check. took the trans guy a week of in depth diagnostics to get it.

 

[trackspeeder]

Make sure the cooler is flushed real good. Put an inline filter on the return line if needed. Might want to check the sensors too.

 

[poolguy]

Man!, I hate that for ya'. So far, so good on my Ford re-man. 2 months old & workin' good.
I hope they can get it straight.
Chuck

 

[icanfixall]

What voltage was the TPS set for? My truck has sat for a year and now I put 180 miles on the new motor with the TPS set too low at .77 volts. My digital multi meter was way off. So my torque converter burned up but the Jaspers trans does have 180,000 miles of hard towing on it. I do remember the temps were climbing up some but nothing that would make you think it was on its way out. I installed a new tps when I started up the motor. Everything else was new so why not. Now if I had known my multi meter was bad maybe the trans would have been ok but who knows at this point. BTS has a long wait and a cost of $3900.00 but I'll never need another trans.... I just wish I didn't have to wait till Nov.27th.....

 

[Diesel JD]

ZF5 Swap!!! The E40D sucks.

 

[Mr_Roboto]

Ford continued to use the same transmission through the end of 7.3 PSD production (2004?). Those motors made more torque than a standard IDI could dream of. So they are more than capable of performing the service asked of them.

If the torque converter is "rattling" I'd guess that the internals came loose. A slipping torque converter will cause a LOT of heat.

Provided the transmission was rebuilt properly and has not suffered overheat damage and there are no other issues (computer / electrical) you should be able to swap out the torque converter and go on with your day.


I can't stress the necessity of installing an inline filter in the cooler return line. You will never get all of the debris out of the coolers by flushing, and debris allowed to enter a good transmission will rapidly accelerate its wear.

I went through the same thing when I replaced an E4OD in my former service truck with a "good used" unit. It was obviously a recent rebuild, and lasted all of 3 weeks. Upon disassembly I concluded that one of the bearings had been damaged on assembly and quickly ruined the rest of the transmission.

After having my truck down for the second time in a month, I walked into the Ford parts department and got a genuine guaranteed reman. It cost me 2 grand but that was better than not being able to work.

 

[LOGANSTANFORTH]

have fun dealing with ATS with a tranny issue, might as well just swap in a ZF and sell what salvagable parts there is out of your E4OD.......sorry.

 

[jimraelee]

I know nothing of the e4od yet, but have other tans experience... if the trans was rebuilt by a reputable shop, I would think that the cooler was flushed... sometimes in the past If I didnt feel comfortable we would eliminate the radiaitor cooler and add on an external cooler. Its better to have the radiator inline with the external for temp regulation, but if in doubt, pull it out. Im not banging the drum its garbage stuck in the cooler/needs flushing thought, but often this happens after a rebuild.

jim

 

[Compu Doc]

When a trans is ordered from Jasper they also include a new external tranny cooler and require it to be installed to validate the warranty. Jasper also beefs up the internals.

 

[94f450sd]

Ford continued to use the same transmission through the end of 7.3 PSD production (2004?). Those motors made more torque than a standard IDI could dream of. So they are more than capable of performing the service asked of them.

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i blew the e4od in my 95 2 weeks after i got the truck.the tranny was rebuilt not long before i bought the truck.all i had done to it was 4" exhaust and a chip with junk programs.

the cooler was flushed real well.i did it myself to make sure it was clean.10 cans of carb cleaner and compressed air.

 

[towcat]

E4DOA's had a major solenoid change for '96 and up. '95 and down is different. wiring is pinned completely different between the two.

 

[Cat_Rebel]

Ford continued to use the same transmission through the end of 7.3 PSD production (2004?). Those motors made more torque than a standard IDI could dream of. So they are more than capable of performing the service asked of them.

They switched to the 4R100 in the 7.3L Superdutys. It's just about the same tranny & kept that until early 03. They changed over to the Torque Shift 5sp auto in late 03 for the 6.0L. I'm at 157K miles on my 93 & haven't had an issue with mine yet. My Ma's 00 Superduty has 188k miles & is still on the stock tranny (4R100) & her truck makes alot more power than I do! My old F-150 had a 5.0L & a E4OD, had a hard shifting problem when I got it but that was due to the fact that it needed a fluid & filter change BAD. After I did that, the thing shifted like a caddy & I was ******* that truck!

 

[Mr_Roboto]

I've said this a million times but here goes, the E4OD and the 4R100 are the same transmission. The difference is E4OD is Ford nomenclature, 4R100 is ISO nomenclature. GM and other manufacturers changed the names in the same manner.

Yes there are some differences based on year, they are all more-or-less interchangeable.

The 4R100 was used with diesels past 2003, since the Econolines continued to use the 7.3 after the pickups had been switched over.

My point is that the transmissions are not automatically prone to failure. There is always a reason.

 

[JwS]

As far as I know the only major change as far a durability was in around 90, when the center support bearing was re-designed. So the very early ones do have a problem with that failing. However a good rebuild should bring this up to date, and there probably aren't too many 88-89 trannys still running around like that. Mine was, but the torque converter clutch gave out first (which is the other common thing I guess).
Jay