Duralift vs Holley Red

[crash-harris]

School me on which one I should do. Seriously. I've been searching on here and haven't found a comparison thread. I'll have the front clip off the Enterprise here soon due to the body damage from the November 3rd wreck. Among the list of things to do before putting the new clip on is to aquire and install the thermocouple for a pyrometer and block off the mech fuel pump in favor of an electric one.

But which one? Looks like the Duralift is a little cheaper than the Holley Red. From what I've read, the holley should be mounted on the frame rail near the FSV and I've only seen the Duralift mounted under the hood (pusher vs puller?). I do plan on swapping in a Bronco rear tank while still maintaining the ability to switch between the aft and midship tanks, if that would make a difference in choosing pumps. Also have dreams of WVO and/or WMO one day.

So what are the pros and cons of each? What one would you choose and why?

 

[icanfixall]

My suggestion is hands down its the Duralift over the Holley Red or Blue. How many semi trailer refers have you seen with a Holley lift pump compared to the Duralift pump??? Nuff said I think. I ran a Holley red for over 100,000 miles but.. When it failed it was a mess. The brushes ate into the commutator so bad it was worthless and not rebuildable. For the miles on the Duralifts running round the planet I know what is a better lift pump. Yes, some Duralift pumps have turned up here failed but for the most part I can't say they were misused or just a bad pump. I can only accept they they failed.

 

[IDIoit]

ive had both.
my duralift lasted 3 months, and left a bad taste in my mouth.
i have used holley pumps extensively its a personal preference.
myself, i deleted my red pump and am installing a black pump and a regulator.
if your truck is stock, either will do fine.
if you have go fast parts, regulating your fuel pressure is a must.

 

[riotwarrior]

Do you like chocolate or vanilla?

Bout the same level of difference....

Pick one..if suites uour need stick with it....if not swap.

Just saying...I prefer chocolate

 

[FORDF250HDXLT]

it's a bit different between flavors of ice cream though.
with the duralift pump you get these pro's that the holly red doesn't offer:

1.diesel fuel rated.
2.solid state.
3.stainless steel screen.
4.designed to pull.- why is this so important? how nice it is to have your pump mounted up in the engine bay.think cold out,fuel gelling issues down in a frame mounted pusher,you can hardly see a thing,the wind chill is -20 below,it's a nor'easter with white out conditions,your laying down in a foot of snow and another 6" of wet slush and ice trying to get a stuck pump off so you can heat it up and thaw it out.
i'll take the pump designed to work up in the warm engine bay please.
5. four hour dry run time.
6.see through fuel bowl.- you know how handy this is?


Available Features

Self-priming with a 10 ft. minimum lift
Transient Protection
Check valve
4 hour dry run
Self-regulating
33 - 50 GPH
15 - 4 PSI
VCA approved EC 95/54



State-of-the-Art Electronic
Sealed Electronics
Reverse Polarity Protection
Corrosion Resistant over 100 hours salt spray
Durable Transparent fuel bowl
Light Weight - 3LBs at 7 1/4”
Low Power Requirements 1.4 amp on average
Operating Temperature Range: -40F to 180F


if ford offered these engines in diesel trucks today,they would be shipped with the dura lift fuel pumps.

i run the dura lifts on both of my commercially used heavy hauling idi trucks.

 

[crash-harris]

Since I'm not as familiar with the Duralift, I did some looking and it looks like the pump for our IDI's would be p/n 40222 (previously p/n 40223). I must say that I like the idea of another fuel filter, and one I can see into at that, but I'm worried about the clear material (plastic or glass?). I can get a new Holley Red for $106 shipped, or at Facet Duralift for $99 shipped, so price is about the same. I do like that the Duralift is made for pulling fuel from a long distance, and only mildly worried about having a holley pump sitting higher than the fuel pickup in the tanks. I don't much care for having to stuff something else under hood with the Duralift (small part of the reason for having a mechanically fed engine, less under hood). I have no go fast parts and the next thing that happens to my IDI will be a new IP and injectors, otherwise it's all stock. Well do power adders when I get the chance to build an IDI for Bruiser.

And chocolate is novel, but I've tended back towards vanilla.

Just what I've found so far, so I'm still unsure. Please continue

 

[riotwarrior]

Who said anything about icecream???

 

[laserjock]

Who said anything about icecream???

 

[Sorro71]

I've had the duralift 40285 for a couple of months now and it has no problems keeping diesel fuel up to a junior moose. So far I've had no reliability issues.

 

[icanfixall]

Another mention about comparing these pumps is the Holley Red will ALWAYS let you know its running. They make noise. Best way I found to cut down the noise was a piece of 1/4 inch rubber between the pump and the frame. Even then I can still hear it running over the idi running engine. Not so with the Duralift. Next time you see a refer trailer look at where the refrigeration unit is located way up to front of the trailer and look back near the spare tire area for the fuel tank. That Duralift pulls from about 30 ft back and up another 10 ft. That pump sucks...

 

[gandalf]

I have my DuraLift mounted on the frame rail just in front of the FSV. It pumps the fuel into a Goldenrod filter/water separator. It was suggested that I place them on the frame rail to avoid the possibility of heat soak.

If I remember correctly the screen on the Duralift is 80 microns. It will stop the really large chunks of debris, but must feed into another actual filter.

Now that so many members have the Duralift pump mounted in the engine bay, I think we might be able to rule out the heat soak idea. I'm wondering about moving mine to a less vulnerable location.

 

[crash-harris]

it's a bit different between flavors of ice cream though.
with the duralift pump you get these pro's that the holly red doesn't offer:

1.diesel fuel rated.
2.solid state.
3.stainless steel screen.
4.designed to pull.- why is this so important? how nice it is to have your pump mounted up in the engine bay.think cold out,fuel gelling issues down in a frame mounted pusher,you can hardly see a thing,the wind chill is -20 below,it's a nor'easter with white out conditions,your laying down in a foot of snow and another 6" of wet slush and ice trying to get a stuck pump off so you can heat it up and thaw it out.
i'll take the pump designed to work up in the warm engine bay please.
5. four hour dry run time.
6.see through fuel bowl.- you know how handy this is?


Available Features

Self-priming with a 10 ft. minimum lift
Transient Protection
Check valve
4 hour dry run
Self-regulating
33 - 50 GPH
15 - 4 PSI
VCA approved EC 95/54



State-of-the-Art Electronic
Sealed Electronics
Reverse Polarity Protection
Corrosion Resistant over 100 hours salt spray
Durable Transparent fuel bowl
Light Weight - 3LBs at 7 1/4”
Low Power Requirements 1.4 amp on average
Operating Temperature Range: -40F to 180F


if ford offered these engines in diesel trucks today,they would be shipped with the dura lift fuel pumps.

i run the dura lifts on both of my commercially used heavy hauling idi trucks.

You do make a really good point about the cold and being under the truck. Been there, done that a few times, never want to do it again.

 

[FORDF250HDXLT]

You do make a really good point about the cold and being under the truck. Been there, done that a few times, never want to do it again.

yeah if only we could be so fortunate right? probably wont be our last time....but at least we don't need to add any extra excuses lol.

 

[riotwarrior]

I just want Ice Cream....seriously...

Since I can mint chocokate chip too!!!

 

[idi_econoline]

Yeh, been thinking about a Duralift for a while. Although I have no FSV, it's gonna be frame rail for me.

Two reasons:
(1) Engine compartment's smaller and hotter than you lucky truck guys.

(2) My part of NorCali doesn't get cold enough to worry about gelling. Truth is: a big freeze (for us) is coming tonite. Down to +26F! And that's only a few times per winter....