A New Stanadyne Injection Pump...

[RLDSL]

Seals have a shelf life of 8-10 years, then, they are supposed to be trashed, and you can figure they aren't going to last in service long after that point if put into service after sitting all that time., however, sometimes manufacturers release new cases into the pool in batches to keep the rebuilders invintories current. I know Bosch does that on a regular basis.

 

[Diesel_brad]

how much is a moose pump?

Good question. How much is one?

 

[Diesel Max]

Good question. How much is one?

From what I understand it depends on the condition of the pump you send to Mel for the rebuild and whether you want the full blown Moose pump or the baby Moose pump. I've heard they can run well over 1K depending upon what you want done to it.................

 

[94turboidi]

I've heard of them being as low as 600 for a Moose if the core doesn't need alot of new parts.

 

[icanfixall]

Both of my Moose pumps were around $560.00... Well over $1000.00.... Thats just crazy. Yes... It really does depend on what shape your pump is in but.... If you send in a running pump that you personally have used... What makes you think its "well over a grand.... I like to think Mel works wonders with these pumps. Some time back an @sshole from the east coast came around these parts... Had nothing good to say about Mel or Russ.... I know both of them personally as do amny others. This guy was bad and sneaky. He "found" the pump builder Mel uses... That fellow told this guy he would build him a pump.... But NEVER... Told him that said pump would be a Moose pump... this guy was all over the internet telling anyone that could read to buy from him without any markup like mel and russ were doing... The ****** didn't know what he was selling.... He was a loudmaoth fool from new york... Not around these parts any longer. I'm guessing the dummy felt if any member made a penny off fellow members it was wrong.... Fine... Pack you shorts and get gone..... Nobody needs that kind of a trouble maker around here. He hurt some peoples feelings... Mine included and I was not part of his attack. Nobody here makes a living off the backs of other members... Thats a common fact.. Darrin sells trucks but... he isn't selling exclussively to members... You got the cash..... You got the rig.. Really simple. Towcat has lots-o-parts.... thats because he has been around these trucks longer than most... Ok mel has been in his rig longer than most members have been alive... Bottom line is mel works very hard giving you much more than you paid for. Have a problem... Its fixed... No problems..My first Moose pump was out of this world. The boost came up so fast I couldn't understand how it could happen. I needed to turn down that pump because the pyro was off the scale. Once turned down it was a daily driver with what felt like 4 more cylinders added to the motor. I had a head soak issue with that pump I thought... So did mel and his builder... It was past the warranty so.... I drove it to the 2009 rally from the west coast and mel installed another moose pump... The price was reasonable so I paid a fair price happy to do it... when that pump was taken apart NOTHING was wrong.... I had turned down the fuel so much that it was fueling less than a factory stock pump. No problem... that was me turning down the pump. Someone got a nice pump that didn't need a rebuild or if something was worn it was small. I will be buying from mel again... this time it will be a baby moose.... I just want one of each..... That will be sometime after the first of the year.... Once you go Moose you'll never turn loose...... Thats a fact... Not just some words trying to convince you to buy something you don't need. I only wish I could drive across the country giving ride in my rig... Yes... I've done a lot of work on the motor too. So how much power am I seeing from my work or mels pump

 

[94turboidi]

Stop it! You guys keep talking about these moose pumps and making the rest of us jealous! Every time I read one of these posts I am like ok how can I swing buying a moose pump. Lol. They sound pretty cool.

 

[Diesel Max]

icanfixall.............. Below are 2 paragraphs from from Mel regarding moose pumps rebuilds. This info was sent to me directly from Mel. I think Mel a stand up individual and have NOTHING bad to say about him and would buy a pump from him tomorrow if I needed one.

My post above about the price is based on the condition of the pump and what kind of build that you want done to the pump and that is EXACTLY what I stated in my last post !!!!! Before you jump out and call BS on someone or something try reading the info below directly from Mel................


" The Super Moose Pump. This is a monster DB2 created from your running core with 30% more fuel flow than the regular Moose Pump. For DECOMPRESSED, HIGH BOOST, INTERCOOLED, STUDDED, seriously rebuilt motors ONLY. Price - if you have to ask, you can't afford it. Seriously, about twice what a regular Moose Pump costs. Allow up to $2K in your budget. Requires Super Moose Mister injectors or equivalent. "


" The way the pump rebuilds work is this way... you send me the pump and a check for $500. I get your pump rebuilt to my specs (either full Moose Pump, Baby Moose, or Super Moose as you specify). I'll get a bill for labor, calibration, and parts. You'll then send me the difference between the $500 and the final bill, and I ship your pump back all ready to go. I'm sorry I don't have a way to offer a set fixed price. If I did, it would be unnecessarily high, because I don't want to get stuck handling these at a loss. I've had some Moose Pumps cost as much as $1000 so I'd caution you not to get involved if you do not want to commit to a potentially high bill. That's not to say that you couldn't also come out on the cheap side. Most pumps are in the $575 to $675 range. It all depends mostly on how many parts are needed, and what machining operations need to be performed to bring the pump up to spec. I HIGHLY RECOMMEND that you send YOUR pump. I've had people send me cores that they have grabbed off of shelves, or from friends, or junk yards. These end up being the MOST EXPENSIVE to rebuild. Why? Because they are often rusty inside, are broken, missing parts, or are in a general state of disrepair due to someone trying to fix it themselves, and then figuring out it wasn't so easy. Stanadyne is very proud of their pumps, and they command a large fee for their parts. Truth be told, if you add up the cost of all their parts, it ends up being about 3 times what a whole pump costs. To that end, I have recieved several junk cores that people have sent me to rob parts off of. If your pump needs a particularly expensive part, we will try to get it from our "pump graveyard" Usually you only end up paying for the labor to remove the needed item. As a good will jesture on your part however, and to return the favor to the next person, I may request that you keep your eyes out for a donor pump to send to me at some future time. "

 

[icanfixall]

Diesel Max... I am well aware of what you have described. My original statement still stands. Both of my pump didn't cost anywhere near a grand. The first pump was $500.00 up front and then another $168.00. the second pump was $565.00 installed by Mel. I'm not one to "fly the BS flag" all the time... Its something I do when its needed. I don't care very much for generality statements. Facts speak volumes here... Not "I heard this about that" kind of starements..I can only speak from actuall experiance so..... Feel as you do... I'm not making you feel like something that got stuck on the bottom of my shoe walking in the park... We can agree to disagree about what you and I posted and still respect each other. I'm one of the original Moose pump owners. I think my pump was number 3 in the series. I'm sure a rusted up pump found in a wrecking yard could cost as much as you stated but on the average its just not so.... Thank you for your prospective on this...PS.... A full blown Moose pump... Thats not a discription of a pump that Mel offers. It was originally .... Moose Pump.... Then the Baby Moose came about.... Then the Super Moose Pump.... Had you said in your post ...Super Moose Pump I may have known what you were posting about....

 

[Diesel Max]

Diesel Max... I am well aware of what you have described. My original statement still stands. Both of my pump didn't cost anywhere near a grand. The first pump was $500.00 up front and then another $168.00. the second pump was $565.00 installed by Mel. I'm not one to "fly the BS flag" all the time... Its something I do when its needed. I don't care very much for generality statements. Facts speak volumes here... Not "I heard this about that" kind of starements..I can only speak from actuall experiance so..... Feel as you do... I'm not making you feel like something that got stuck on the bottom of my shoe walking in the park... We can agree to disagree about what you and I posted and still respect each other. I'm one of the original Moose pump owners. I think my pump was number 3 in the series. I'm sure a rusted up pump found in a wrecking yard could cost as much as you stated but on the average its just not so.... Thank you for your prospective on this...PS.... A full blown Moose pump... Thats not a discription of a pump that Mel offers. It was originally .... Moose Pump.... Then the Baby Moose came about.... Then the Super Moose Pump.... Had you said in your post ...Super Moose Pump I may have known what you were posting about....

Fair enough.......... Wasn't looking to cause problems or start anything. If I hadn't had the statements from Mel about the pricing, I wouldn't have posted a reply to the price question in the first place. I would agree as Mel states that "some pump rebuilds costing $1,000" is typically not the norm but apparently it does happen or he wouldn't make the the statement as well allowing 2K in your budget for a super moose pump, if that is something an indvidual wanted. At any rate lets let it go..................

On a side note, Mel and Russ are both honest individuals and both do fantastic work as I can atest too from experience with both of them.

Mel, if you feel this is out of line feel free to delete my posts...............

 

[94turboidi]

I would like to see someone get a super moose pump sometime. I love my engine but before I spent that kind of money on it I believe there would be a cummins in it. If I had the money to blow I would definitely build an idi to see what a person can get out of it. I really think there is alot of untapped potential in these engines. I have read about some stuff being done with 6.5 chevys and they were keeping the high compression and getting some pretty good power.

 

[icanfixall]

Max... I don't think anyone is going to delete your posts. You and I were talking about differant pumps. Thats why my statement was what it was. I do feel like you and I understand each other fairly and we can go on from here friendly as before. Your posting about mel and russ are so true. They both have helped me with lots of questions. Usually my questins are above the normal ones being asked here so its difficult to get answers sometimes. I enjoy shareing what I have learned with others. Its most difficult when a new member comes along and makes some mistakes that a lot of us have made. The Hall of Shame is just a small expamle of that.... Thats a forum all new members should be required to read before they can get on this forum....

 

[Diesel Max]

Max... I don't think anyone is going to delete your posts. You and I were talking about differant pumps. Thats why my statement was what it was. I do feel like you and I understand each other fairly and we can go on from here friendly as before. Your posting about mel and russ are so true. They both have helped me with lots of questions. Usually my questins are above the normal ones being asked here so its difficult to get answers sometimes. I enjoy shareing what I have learned with others. Its most difficult when a new member comes along and makes some mistakes that a lot of us have made. The Hall of Shame is just a small expamle of that.... Thats a forum all new members should be required to read before they can get on this forum....

fixall............. Absolutley no hard feelings....... I feel your are valued member on this forum and have even given me helpful advice in the past...

As far as I'm concerned we are good.............

 

[flareside_thun]

Diesel Max, the pump I was referring to is a nonturbo pump. Sorry for the miscommunication.

 

[Agnem]

I've only ever had 1 pump that cost over $1000 to rebuild. The situation was that an off-shore member wanted to get a Moose Pump, but because of customs and duties fees, it made more sense to source a core in the states. He got a member here to ship me a core. It WAS a core all right. An apple core. Or should have been. It was beyond shot. But that's what you get for free sometimes. It needed parts we had to buy from Stanadyne, as at the time there was nothing in our parts junkyard we could draw from. The $750 for a new pump as posted by the thread starter, is in fact more than what probably 80-85% of the pumps I've done cost. And in the end, you get a pump that looks just as shiny and new as that one, and will last just as long too.

I don't object to anyone posting the PM information that I send them, but please realize I don't post it that way because I do reserve the right to change terms and pricing. These threads get stale. My PM's do not.

 

[OLDBULL8]

U-Haul has rebuilt pumps on ebay at a reasonable price. What's the thought of getting one of these for a rebuild into a Moose "big or little". There are two different pumps on U-Haul.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/PUMP...ptZMotorsQ5fCarQ5fTruckQ5fPartsQ5fAccessories