7.3 idi turbo has no power

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I've learned a ton about these diesels over the past week but still don't understand them that we'l and need some help now.

When I got this truck a while ago it wasn't running, thought it was the injection pump, replaced it with a good used one, still didn't start, found out it was the lifter pump, replaced and it started up finally, but smoked, whiteish blue smoke a ton! That was when I learned the injection pump act as the timing, tried to set it back to where it was and the smoke went all away, I was impressed how much get up it had, if I floored it i could get a nice little black cloud, especially up Hill.

Well then it sat for a while for other reasons, finally got it running again and it was running bad, I could hear 2 of my injector tapping loud and was pretty sure they were the original ones, so I bought some new ones and finally got them in.

Some back story, when I replaced the injection pump, i had an injector cap strip out, before I knew about different injectors, so I just went to the junk yard and pulled an injector from a truck and stuck it in, which happened to be one of the ones tapping loudly, it was a D injector, my truck had BB, there was another injector that had no label but looked new.. There were also some times while drivin on the road, it would be real slow and sluggish and then get a burst of power, i wouldnt move the throttle at all, sometimes it would throw me back in the seat like a few more cylinders kicked in for a second, then gone. Also, mostly on the freeway recently I've been seeing my fuel light come on, thinking it's because colder then a witches left *** out here, I have winterized diesel fuel.

Anyways, got the injectors replaced, and i replaced them with B injectors cuz i bought them before I really knew the difference, got them installed, loud injector tap is finally gone but it's like it almost has less power.. Havent driven alot but my fuel light hasn't come back on, still doesn't sound that great, like it's clucking instead of chugging.. I feel like an na 7.3 would beat me and I have the ats turbo kit, i can barely get up to speed on the freeway still need to time the pump, but I've tried to get as close as I can, but no matter where I put it doesn't make it sound better. Also I get a little smoke on start up, but even flooring it up Hill my exhaust won't smoke. Also before and now after, ive never been able to get my engine to Rev over like 2500 rpm, and it struggles to get that high.. Should I still be looking at the pump? Sorry for the long winded post, and thanks for the help
 

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Check the timing with a meter!
No one pulls a good working ip. This one gets everyone asking these questions( my bet' bad pumps)
Check the turbo spins cleanly.
Restriction in exh, pipe?
Throttle cable achieving wide open throttle?
 

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I suggest replacing the fuel filter is the filter light is starting to come on. I bet it comes on when the engine is at higher rpm's. As for timing it .. Yes, do that with a meter and then you will know exactly what is going on. As for the surging I suggest not running the fuel tanks at 1/4 level. Most tanks have the suction head broken off and then they can't suck the last 1/4 tank of fuel. So they suck air and you feel this surge of power.
 

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Yes, getting it set and metered is my project for tomorrow, I ran out of daylight today.
Turbo spins fine and makes a very nice whistling noise that I love, its a 3" straight pipe all the way back to before the rear tire, no mufflers or any restrictions.. When i bought the truck I was clueless about diesels, but i build cars and bikes so I'm not a total noob, he told me the pump went out, so I blindly found another pump. I'll be sure to watch the fuel tanks, but it wasn't a sudden loss of power, it was a sudden gain of power, like another injector kicked in fir a second.. I'll check the throttle lines.

A few threads down someone posted a video about a new engine ticking, mine sounds alot like truck in the video, ill have to figure out how to get a video up
 

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Just to clarify what icanfixall said - the surge is from LOW FUEL PRESSURE.
The IP has a mechanism that advances the timing when you have lots of
air in the stream (I am sure that someone can give you the exact reason).
 

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Good catch on fuel filter gary' it takes a village.:D
 

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Just to clarify what icanfixall said - the surge is from LOW FUEL PRESSURE.
The IP has a mechanism that advances the timing when you have lots of
air in the stream (I am sure that someone can give you the exact reason).


X5 on the low fuel pressure.
every IDI should have a fuel pressure gauge at the filter head.
my truck would do the same with the worn out lift pump.
i installed a electric pump and was golden.

now im intrigued on the mechanism that advances the timing while air in the system...
can someone elaborate on this without hijacking the thread too much?
 

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X5 on the low fuel pressure.
every IDI should have a fuel pressure gauge at the filter head.
my truck would do the same with the worn out lift pump.
i installed a electric pump and was golden.

now im intrigued on the mechanism that advances the timing while air in the system...
can someone elaborate on this without hijacking the thread too much?

It has been explained before by either Mel or Gary, I just can't remember what they said lol.
About the fuel pressure gauge at the filter head.....this is a great idea IF you buy a quality gauge, and not a cheap Kragen one like I did a few years back. Like many others, I wanted to know what the fuel pressure was so I installed one right before I had to head back up to Chico for college. Well on the way back driving in the middle of nowhere, it decided to fail and spewed about 8 gallons of diesel fuel in the engine bay before I realized what had happened. There I was broke down at midnight for a good 2 hours before one of my buddies came to the rescue with his tools. Lesson learned & still want to install a gauge there, but after that experience I don't think I ever will.
 

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It has been explained before by either Mel or Gary, I just can't remember what they said lol.
About the fuel pressure gauge at the filter head.....this is a great idea IF you buy a quality gauge, and not a cheap Kragen one like I did a few years back. Like many others, I wanted to know what the fuel pressure was so I installed one right before I had to head back up to Chico for college. Well on the way back driving in the middle of nowhere, it decided to fail and spewed about 8 gallons of diesel fuel in the engine bay before I realized what had happened. There I was broke down at midnight for a good 2 hours before one of my buddies came to the rescue with his tools. Lesson learned & still want to install a gauge there, but after that experience I don't think I ever will.


ive never had an issue with any of the USA made gauges ive purchased.

quit supporting communism, and buy quality made American products.
;Poke LOL
 

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We can install fuel isolators inline too and not have fuel or hot oil in the cab. So you were out on the road with no tools.....;Really:D:angel:
 

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Hm, lift pump is still pretty new but you never know, I'll go rent a fuel pressure tester today and check that, would be cool if thats my whole problem.. Onto setting the timing, its alot harder then I thought, as in I can't find alot onto how to set the actual timing, ive found a few, some with a gauge you clamp on the fuel line, others with a probe you put in the cylinder, either way I can't find the tools to this job anywhere
 

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