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2+2 does not equal 4

Discussion in '6.9L IH & 7.3L IDI Diesels' started by 1mouse3, Jan 21, 2021.

  1. oregon96psd

    oregon96psd Full Access Member

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    Not necessarily, the front end could have a lot of positive camber and be pushing them the other way. Just an idea, but in some of the pictures it looks like the inside of the tire is bulging more than the outside.
     
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    These are the tires before I sarted driving it and how it sits on the high side, will take current ones tomorrow on flat ground.

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    This is what the tires looked like before I started driving on them, they looked ruffly all the same if I remember correctly.

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    Cheap and short is stiff with the bmw on coil overs, it dose not clear all pot holes and best to navigate around. I have not much issue with the stiff, just had a hope for something else but is to be expected.

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    Found flat groud where she is most fitted to and took some pics, there no snow to hide her in.

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    This is the current state of the front tires, sorry they got them dirty for the photo shoot.

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  5. Farmer Rock

    Farmer Rock just a fella' without a 10mm socket

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    Maybe it is just me, but from looking at the truck it almost looks like the frame is bent. It could just be my eyes playing tricks on me.




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    When I jack up the passenger side so that it is the same high as the other, the body line trues up some but that bed is all beat up. The front of that bed is beat toward the cab, drivers side rail is bent down, passenger side rail is bent up, passenger rear quarter is beat in and the tail gate is bent such it only latches on one side. So with the state of the bed I cant make head or tails whether something off just looking at it.
     
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    Farmer Rock just a fella' without a 10mm socket

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    It sounds like that truck has seen some use over the years.lol.
    I can see how that makes it very difficult to judge. I guess you can't really be sure unless the bed was removed.



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    Past me got this as a parts truck with no intention to use the oem bed, so the condition of it was of no concern. The only one I find interesting currently would be a stahl grand challenger but dont see luck in find one in usable condition for cheap anymore. I may be going with a replacement oem with low side boxs like I did on a past f250, sorry cant find pics with the boxs but got others. These are it with 285/75r16 front and 305/75r16 back tires along with what it looked like when I got it, the current one had to be bigger and 4wd. I had driven someone elses highboy and a j10, I liked the crude mono feal of them where they somewhat float as well. Was interested in one with a mechanical diesel over another carborated big block this time as well, so that left me looking for one of two that I like the look of. So was hunting for a square burban or ex cab obs, the ex cab obs came up so that is the path I went down. I thought having a running engine and a good front axle was all that was need to compleat the goal, but no there is more that needs sorted out. Yes she dose need to be put back to work, load her up to where she sofens up and stops bucking as bad.


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    Spray paint a line around tire. While wet spin tire and hold something on it to make a line. screwdriver, nail etc. Measure distance between the front and the back. This will give you a true reading of toe in/out. If that truck has been used by an asphalt co. it has been abused. The spring sets are 1 250, 1 350 go to a bone yard and get a set of MATCHING springs. You can check camber with a plumb bob. hold a spacer on the top of the rim, and make a line where the point is, take spacer and rotate the wheel, ( in case it's bent), with the wheel on the bottom check to see if the point lines up on the same mark. The axel must be level when you take the measurement. This will tell you what is going on. To check the line on the tire make something with a thin rod/wire, 2x4 coat hanger, whatever, and check the mark halfway up the tire, (farthest point). A little toe in is ok. Toe out IS NOT! Toe in will make the vehicle track the turn, toe out will spin you out. As the outside tire loads up in a turn, if the axle has toe out it will steer the rear end out. "this is bad" :)
     
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    Rear Cab mounts are shot which doesn't help that it looks like the frame is bent in the middle.
     
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    Last I looked those where good, will try to get picks to tomorrow. Only one that is questenable is the front driver side mount, will get to that later when it gets warm.
     
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    They will look good but the crease body line being off between the cab and bed is a tale tale sign they are bad on this body style. They all do this and are a pia to replace. Tomorrow I'll get a picture of my 93 and the cab is the same just not as pronounced.
     
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    I got a cherry 93 if ya need "as built" pics
    California truck
     
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    Look at the crease body line and see how mine is off. It is the rear cab mounts that are bad on mine for sure.

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    Thanks for having me look at that again, drivers side looks smashed compaired to the passenger side.


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    This is the how far off the bed lines between the sides.

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