So what did you do with your truck today?

Jesus Freak · Mar 15, 2024

Rdnck84_03 said:
No worries FedEx seems to think my address doesn't exist, or atleast they sure can't find it.

James

I'd find you. I've been down every rabbit trail in the tri-county area around here. And @Old Goat , I'm not with FedEx anymore. My contractors finally burned me enough that I've traded jobs for a while. I'm a "para-transit bus driver". I deliver people now! These packages talk back!

Rdnck84_03 · Mar 15, 2024

Old Goat said:
My BIL has one that exact color, 83 6.9 4 x 4.

I love the color combo on that truck, it's not a diesel though. That one is an 82 f150 that I bought about a year ago and did a half *** build thread on in the gasoline powered section.

My 83 f250 6.9 is the same colors except reversed (minus the blue/white bed).

James

ihc1470 · Mar 15, 2024

Old Goat said:
Lot of you are too young to remember when turn signals appeared on vehicles. We learned to signal with our arm out the window.
(Is that even on the driving test today?)

How did we survive all that growing up?

Goat

Still on the test in Idaho. I still drive a couple of cars that came out of the factory long before anyone thought we needed turn signals.

hacked89 · Mar 15, 2024

I’m putting together a ford 9” for my latest IDI project. I have a 9 3/8” from the tbird which I heard a 9” third member bolts right in. I wanted a full spool and 4.56 gears and found it in Maryland. My understanding is a ford 9 3/8 is compatible with any 31 spline big bearing 9”. What I couldn’t figure out online because this is my first 9” is what exactly and where in the housing is the big vs small bearing? The guy who drag races I bought it from doesn’t know. I don’t know. I call Strange who makes spools and asked them and they said their spools are the same diameter whether it’s big or small bearing. This then made me assume that it must be the wheel bearing or some outer bearing that differs in outer shaft diameter and the inner shaft diameters are the same on either big or small bearing 9”s?

Maybe you guys know?

Water under the bridge now, on my way back from Maryland with a 9”

XOLATEM · Mar 15, 2024

From what I have seen there are at least two areas on a Ford 9 inch that have different bearings...

Carrier bearings...I have seen at least three sizes...the biggest ones were to allow 31 spline axles to pass through and the smaller ones were for 28 spline axles.

On most older housings...metal was removed to allow for the bigger bearings...and with an 'N' housing the composition of the metal was better...'nodular' was the term of recognition.

Watch out for much older housings that have extra ribs but less alloying metals in the matrix...they will fracture and ruin your day.

Moving right along with the bearing differences...

Axle bearings at the brake hub...I have seen two different sizes...the older style and the newer, 'Torino' style...makes a difference which brakes you can bolt up...'Torino' style is larger and has a bigger bolt pattern.

On the pinion bearings...I have seen at least two different setups...and one that used spacers instead of a crush sleeve...the original ones (spacers) were called 'Daytona' pinion bearing supports...

I imagine...but do not know for sure...I don't have my parts catalogs with me...that the 'Daytona' bearings were larger and the pedestrian (is there such a thing with anything that Ford builds for truck use or performance..?) ones are smaller...

The aftermarket makes all sorts of stuff for 9 inch...you can't go wrong with it if you don't need a full-floater...

I used to love to build 9 inchers...they were the hot ticket for drag racing...

Can you show a pic of your housing and pinion support...and the part numbers...?

hacked89 said:
what exactly and where in the housing is the big vs small bearing?

hacked89 · Mar 15, 2024

XOLATEM said:
From what I have seen there are at least two areas on a Ford 9 inch that have different bearings...

Carrier bearings...I have seen at least three sizes...the biggest ones were to allow 31 spline axles to pass through and the smaller ones were for 28 spline axles.

On most older housings...metal was removed to allow for the bigger bearings...and with an 'N' housing the composition of the metal was better...'nodular' was the term of recognition.

Watch out for much older housings that have extra ribs but less alloying metals in the matrix...they will fracture and ruin your day.

Moving right along with the bearing differences...

Axle bearings at the brake hub...I have seen two different sizes...the older style and the newer, 'Torino' style...makes a difference which brakes you can bolt up...'Torino' style is larger and has a bigger bolt pattern.

On the pinion bearings...I have seen at least two different setups...and one that used spacers instead of a crush sleeve...the original ones (spacers) were called 'Daytona' pinion bearing supports...

I imagine...but do not know for sure...I don't have my parts catalogs with me...that the 'Daytona' bearings were larger and the pedestrian (is there such a thing with anything that Ford builds for truck use or performance..?) ones are smaller...

The aftermarket makes all sorts of stuff for 9 inch...you can't go wrong with it if you don't need a full-floater...

I used to love to build 9 inchers...they were the hot ticket for drag racing...

Can you show a pic of your housing and pinion support...and the part numbers...?

Thanks man for sharing the details and knowledge. Over the weekend when I take things apart I’ll let you know. Everything you said makes sense, but I’m also building a franken axle that I think will work which is a 31 spline 9 3/8 and I’m going to use the 9 3/8 shafts in the 9” third member that I got from a drag car. My assumption is the carrier bearings are the same so the inner shafts are the same size but I heard 9 3/8 uses “big bearing” shafts. Which must be something like the outer portions of the axle shafts taper in size depending on “big vs small bearing” 9s. Just shooting from the hip some thoughts no real facts until I tear into them from my side atleast.

hacked89 · Mar 15, 2024

And for anyone interested this is a nice article on the ford 9 3/8 https://burntclutches.com/2020/05/28/automotiva-obscura-the-ford-9-3-8-differential/

And the 9” third member I just picked up that I want to put in my 9 3/8” housing

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XOLATEM · Mar 15, 2024

hacked89 said:
Thanks man for sharing the details and knowledge.

You are very welcome...'preciate the feedback...

hacked89 said:
9” third member that I got from a drag car.

Check the spool to make sure it fits your (Urban Assault Vehicle) 9 3/8 axles... the drag car could have had aftermarket axles with a different spline count.

hacked89 said:
I heard 9 3/8 uses “big bearing” shafts.

I would bet that the 'big bearing' part is where your brakes bolt up...being a big car and needing large brakes...

hacked89 said:
9” third member I just picked up

Can you tip it up by the yoke and let me see the casting numbers...?

And then get a pic of the spool splines so we can count them..?

That article was good...thanks...also...that housing that has WAR on it...that is the one that I would avoid for performance use...

hacked89 · Mar 15, 2024

XOLATEM said:
You are very welcome...'preciate the feedback...

Check the spool to make sure it fits your (Urban Assault Vehicle) 9 3/8 axles... the drag car could have had aftermarket axles with a different spline count.

I would bet that the 'big bearing' part is where your brakes bolt up...being a big car and needing large brakes...

Can you tip it up by the yoke and let me see the casting numbers...?

And then get a pic of the spool splines so we can count them..?

The 9 3/8 is 31 spline which matches the new unit from the drag car which is also 31 spline. What got me questioning things was the guy with the drag car told me that the 9” third member from his drag car was small bearing and I said well what does that mean? And he said he didn’t know. Originally I thought all 31 splines had the same size larger carrier bearing. Based off our discussion I think I’m going to be fine without modification but will know once I try it this week. Have to head up to NY early tomorrow for a parts swap meet and then the rest of the weekend want to knock out the engine stuff. Have a few IDI things you guys would be interested in I’ll post.

& I think your guess is correct about the big vs small being related to the brakes

IDIBRONCO · Mar 16, 2024

I took a round trip of about 200 miles to the south west to see a friend today. I was a little late getting on the road and stayed a little later than I had planned to. It had been dark for over 1 1/2 hours before I left his house to head home. I still LOVE the new lights!

1mouse3 · Mar 16, 2024

hacked89 said:
I’m putting together a ford 9” for my latest IDI project. I have a 9 3/8” from the tbird which I heard a 9” third member bolts right in. I wanted a full spool and 4.56 gears and found it in Maryland. My understanding is a ford 9 3/8 is compatible with any 31 spline big bearing 9”. What I couldn’t figure out online because this is my first 9” is what exactly and where in the housing is the big vs small bearing? The guy who drag races I bought it from doesn’t know. I don’t know. I call Strange who makes spools and asked them and they said their spools are the same diameter whether it’s big or small bearing. This then made me assume that it must be the wheel bearing or some outer bearing that differs in outer shaft diameter and the inner shaft diameters are the same on either big or small bearing 9”s?

Maybe you guys know?

Water under the bridge now, on my way back from Maryland with a 9”

The bearing that is refered to, is the outer alxe bearings and those are in the two sizes. My f100 has a 9in with the big bearings and snaped a 28 spline one, so dug and found that a bronco had the right size one on the passenger side thats 31 spline. So called and talked with the pepole at this place to get two in the length I need, and also got a full spool to put in the 3rd member. Oh yea and the axle length is from that bearing plate to the end of the splines, length from plate out is determined by 10 or 11 in drum.

Ford 9 inch Axles - TOMS OFFROAD

We offer axles for your early Bronco Ford 9 inch rear end in stock 28 spline or upgrade to 31 spline. Our rear axle shafts are made with 1541 steel and are induction heated with rolled splines for optimum strength.

tomsoffroad.com

tbowker · Mar 16, 2024

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I replaced both door hinges and the door striker pin on the driver side. Next time, if I have to replace the hinges on the passenger side, I will remove the fender to make the job easier. I must have put the door on and off about six times before I got the gap correct.

KansasIDI · Mar 16, 2024

Put glow plugs in my service truck, and swapped tires around since I blew one yesterday. Four of the tires were new when I got the truck, and it was one of the two older, crummy tires that blew at 70 mph… inside left dual. I bought two new tires, made sure tread was gonna match up good on both sets of duals. So it has new tires all the way around now, cost about $500 for two new tires installed onto the rims… the tire shop did charge me the heavy duty service charge, I guess since it’s a ten lug, but really that seems more like a pickup… whatever.

Got the hubs pulled off of the Dana 50, freshened up and swapped onto the 60. Hopefully tomorrow afternoon I can get the Dana 50 out of the truck, and maybe even get the 60 in…

Old Goat · Mar 17, 2024

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tbowker said:
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I replaced both door hinges and the door striker pin on the driver side. Next time, if I have to replace the hinges on the passenger side, I will remove the fender to make the job easier. I must have put the door on and off about six times before I got the gap correct.

Nice looking shop, my first thought you need insulate it, then notice you are in Florida.

Yeah those doors are heavy and can hurt you. I had my Wife help me, balancing it on a Floor Jack. That is kind of sketchie.
I had mine off doing Door Hinge pins.

I saw these Shop Door Hanger`s, you can lift, tilt to adjust etc.... not something we would use every day, but when you do, kind of handy.
Both of my door,s tilt back, and need the hinge loosened on the body, was looking at removing the fender, and what a PI TA that looks to be.

here is my Google search. They all are made in China, and some way over priced.

body shop door hanger - Google Search

Goat

tbowker · Mar 17, 2024

Old Goat said:
Nice looking shop, my first thought you need insulate it, then notice you are in Florida.

Thanks, in hind sight, I should have made the shop larger since it didn't take long to fill it with tools and stuff. You are correct, I should have insulated it. The winters aren't bad, but summer is brutal, it's like being inside an oven. Fans only make it feel like you're in an air fryer.

Old Goat said:
I saw these Shop Door Hanger`s, you can lift, tilt to adjust etc.... not something we would use every day, but when you do, kind of handy.

Thanks for that link, you always provide the best search results. After looking at it, it gave me an idea for the drywall lift that sits in the corner. I think with a little modification I could make it work like that door hanger. :Thumbs Up

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