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Wes, I need help

Discussion in 'Classic Diesel Designs' started by 8gitmusik1, Mar 1, 2019.

  1. 8gitmusik1

    8gitmusik1 1994_E350_7.3_IDI_N/A_E4OD

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    I bought and installed Accurate Diesels end plug harness fix kit for my 94 IDI, the post ends that they claim to easily heat shrink are not good, they pull out of the boot ends of the connector. They are claiming thousands of satified users. B.S. I am only one user and I cant start my engine due to these connectors. I want your harness. I believe in what your doing and know, that you know the problem and the solution. Can you send the harness out tomoorow Saturday so I get it ASAP.

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    Clb Another old truck Supporting Member

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    Your asking a LOT of a guy runnin a shop to come in on Saturday...
    Just my .02
    I h8te cheap products.
    here's to ya wes
     
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    Im in the shop seven days a week typically, but Im actually already on the road heading to lubbock texas for a funeral. Ill be back at the shop sunday evening, so Ill have one out monday if I have what you need in stock. Do you want to replace the glowplug wiring or replace the whole system with the manual control kit?
     
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    8gitmusik1 1994_E350_7.3_IDI_N/A_E4OD

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    Wes,

    Thanks for responding. I just need the harness at this point. I'll do the manual push button and W-R contactor later, once I confirm the engine is viable.

    After running it awhile I can order the other, additional wiring if thats ok with you. Just want to get this engine running again. So, I can hunt down any other drive train, brake, transmission, wiring issues.

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    8gitmusik1 1994_E350_7.3_IDI_N/A_E4OD

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    Wes,

    My sincere condolences, to you and your family, in your time of loss.

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    8gitmusik1 1994_E350_7.3_IDI_N/A_E4OD

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    Hello Wes,

    6:27p- Sunday-

    I need the 1994 IDI stock glow plug relay harness that you made/updated, sent out Monday, please. I only have your address. I dont have your phone number. I need to give you my CC info to get the pkg sent out asap. so I can get my motor running.

    Thanks, Dave

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  7. Thewespaul

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    I’m about two hours from home, once I get to the shop I’ll shoot you an invoice. Please pm me your email address
     
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    8gitmusik1 1994_E350_7.3_IDI_N/A_E4OD

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    Wes,

    Just saw this, thanks for responding. I dont do Paypal. May I call you and give you my credit card?

    Thanks,

    Dave
     
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    8gitmusik1 1994_E350_7.3_IDI_N/A_E4OD

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    Wes, Good Afternoon,
    Checking in to see if you got my PM last night. I didnt see any response. I'm wondering if you can please get the CDD replacement GLOW PLUG harness out today? PM me your phone number. Thx

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    Thewespaul Supporting Vendor Supporting Member

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    I never received a pm from you last night, but I already sent an invoice to your inbox.
     
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    8gitmusik1 1994_E350_7.3_IDI_N/A_E4OD

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    Yes Wes. Got the follow up PM. Have a blessed evening and thanks for everything!

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    8gitmusik1 1994_E350_7.3_IDI_N/A_E4OD

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    Well Guys,

    Wes at CDD's glow plug OEM replacement harness for my 94 7.3IDI-NA didnt show up. NOT Wes' fault at all, but it is just that the USPS 1st class mail system is still notoriously known as SNAIL MAIL for a reason.

    Since the harness is not here, it gave me a pause to think about how I am going to route the new GP wiring on the passenger and drivers side.

    Now, those with GP problems, especially on the older IDI's can appreciate and relate to. The years of heat, vibration and the plastics and rubber themselves finally failing resulting in the breaking down and revealing of, exposed wiring, and of course the old, rotten bullet connectors.

    These culprits are addressed and fixed with the CDD (thewespaul) updated GP harness. Praise the LORD.

    Here are some of my thoughts on this process.

    On the OEM harness, upon preparation of the new GP harness and bullet ends, it requires the removal of the bullet ends, the original wiring that is encased in the harness and all taped together ALONG WITH other sensor wiring that plug into the top front of the 7.3.

    So, my point of taking the time to write this is so that, hopefully, someone else that comes along with the same situation can hear and maybe take advice from you all here on OilBurners, and, read my thought process, resulting from the pro's and con's of leaving all the wiring in the harness and just clipping off the old bullet ends, or to go the extra mile and cut open the OEM GP harness, carefully cut, tear or otherwise remove the dried up tape, etc. and remove the 8 wires and old bullet connectors ENTIRELY from the spiral wrap OEM harness and try to see if the 4 individual "Aftermarket CDD" GP wires can be retrofitted into the larger OEM spiral wrap and then everything has to be retaped and reinstalled like OEM from the factory or not.

    I am still debating, as on one hand, just leaving it all intact and just clipping/cutting thew bullet end connects back to where each wire enters the spiral harness would have been SO much easier, it would have made for "not as clean" a re-install.

    Or, maybe, should I have chosen, the harder path less traveled (which I did, btw) and carefully took the whole GP harness apart and removed the old tape, opened up the larger plastic spiral harness and individually removed each of the 4 wires and terminal bullet ends on both banks of GP's on either side of the engine.

    I feel that, (if the aftermarket GP wires) will fit back into the spiral plastic wire loom, it will make for a much more streamlined re-installation, rather than the alternative method which is to leave the OEM wire loom harness intact and run along the injectors (as stock but with only the sensor wires still inside and functional) and ALSO have all the new GP harness wires zip tied and run along with the OEM wire loom next to it which would bulk up the re-install and make it look like more of a hack job than a professional one.

    Since the NEW GP wiring didnt come today, I fear that I may still, have to run BOTH, the OEM loom, AND, the 4 zip tied GP wires along side one another, if, the new, GP individual wires with heat shielding, will not fit back into the OEM wire loom.

    We'll see, when the care package arrives, hopefully tomorrow, based on tracking.

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    My opinion, cut the ends off at the factory harness, and leave the harness intact. Remember, the wires that you are not replacing, have been exposed to the same conditions as the glow plug wires. So they will be brittle also.

    I also believer that Wes's harness comes in a wire loom.

    I would keep them separate, because I think that tearing apart OEM harness is going to cause you more issues. The wiring that runs the pump, tach and other things on top of the engine are in that harness. I understand you wanting to have an OEM Style install. But I think the separate harnesses would be better in the long run. Plus there is a chance you may have to replace glow plugs in the future. Keeping them separate, means you are only disturbing the new wires/harness rather than the new and old ones.
     
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    David and I have been working on figuring out what happened to his package and finally got to the bottom of things. It was supposed to be delivered Friday but got sent to a Baltimore usps sorting facility :wtf:and is in transit from Florida to Georgia from its detour, we don’t know why the package did a tour of the USA but it should be arriving Monday. It’s really frustrating dealing with these shipping issues, I wish there was a better option for sending orders out, I’d be more than willing to pay for a better service. Thank you guys for the helpful suggestions, I haven’t seen this until now, but David and I have been on the phone since this morning sorting things out.
     
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