Propane injection how to?

[79jasper]

Good ol google:

Fuel or Chemical Autoignition Temperature
(oC) (oF)
Acetaldehyde 175 347
Acetone 465 869
Acetylene 305 581
Anthracite - glow point 600 1112
Benzene 560 1040
Bituminous coal - glow point 454 850
Butane 405 761
Carbon 700 1292
Carbon bisulfide 149 300
Carbon disulfide 90 194
Carbon monoxide 609 1128
Charcoal 349 660
Coal-tar oil 580 1076
Coke 700 1292
Cyclohexane 245 473
Diethyl ether 160 320
Diesel, Jet A-1 210 410
Ethane 515 959
Ethylene 490 914
Ethyl Alcohol, Ethanol 365 689
Fuel Oil No.1 210 410
Fuel Oil No.2 256 494
Fuel Oil No.4 262 505
Heavy hydrocarbons 750 1382
Hydrogen 500 932
Gas oil 336 637
Gasoline, Petrol 280 536
Gun Cotton 221 430
Kerosene 295 563
Isobutane 462 864
Isobutene 465 869
Isooctane 447 837
Isopentane 420 788
Isopropyl Alcohol 399 750
Light gas 600 1112
Light hydrocarbons 650 1202
Lignite - glow point 526 979
Magnesium 473 883
Methane (Natural Gas) 580 1076
Methanol, Methyl Alcohol 470 878
Naphtha 550 1022
Neoheaxane 425 797
Neopentane 450 842
Nitro-glycerine 254 490
n-Butane 405 761
n-Heptane 215 419
n-Hexane 225 437
n-Octane 220 428
n-Pentane 260 500
n-Pentene 298 569
Oak Wood - dry 482 900
Paper 450 761
Peat 227 440
Petroleum 400 752
Pine Wood - dry 427 800
Phosphorus, amorphous 260 500
Phosphorus, transparent 49 120
Phosphorus, white 34 93
Production gas 750 1382
Propane 470 878
Propylene 458 856
p-Xylene 530 986
Rifle Powder 288 550
Triethylborane -20 -4
Toluene 535 995
Semi anthracite coal 400 752
Semi bituminous coal - glow point 527 980
Silane < 21 < 70
Styrene 490 914
Sulphur 243 470
Wood 300 572
Xylene 463 867

I wander what "coke" that is referring to?
But if someone was running water injection, shouldn't that keep anything in the precup or cylinder from igniting it early?

 

[Blind Driver2]

No wonder why used motor oil and regular unleaded work so good in a IDI...



Javier

I never considered those two a good combination

Smells like a gawd awful barbecue grill.

 

[redneckaggie]

http://www.oilburners.net/forums/showthread.php?23140-*******-for-the-engine&highlight=*******

this is from when i was attempting to set up propane. micro switch is a simple on/off switch much like a push button, a hobbs switch is a relay that only powers on when ther is pressure applied on the switch(in this case oil pressure)

 

[turbo elk]

My thought is... does it really help the diesel burn better?

 

[79jasper]

My thought is... does it really help the diesel burn better?

It's supposed to give a more complete burn.

 

[Wicked97]

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What are your list of parts? The biggest thing i had trouble finding is the switch he put next to the throttle to engage the system under acceleration

Easily found in the nitrous section of summit or jets.

 

[bagpiperjosh]

http://www.oilburners.net/forums/showthread.php?23140-*******-for-the-engine&highlight=*******

this is from when i was attempting to set up propane. micro switch is a simple on/off switch much like a push button, a hobbs switch is a relay that only powers on when ther is pressure applied on the switch(in this case oil pressure)

it looks like no one really answered your question as to which micro switch to use, which one did you purchase? if any

EDIT: It looks like these switches are designed to be only activated under FULL throttle, what if you want it to engage about half way? seems like that wouldnt be possible to do that with how we have to set this up. im not trying to run a race here, just get up steep hills better.

 

[nine9six]

I tried figuring out the scanner / printer combo deal, but I didn't get far. My GF is home from her business trip and has today off. I asked her to get it scanned for me at some point today. I'll attach it to this thread once I have it.


-Justin

 

[Wyreth]

EDIT: It looks like these switches are designed to be only activated under FULL throttle, what if you want it to engage about half way? seems like that wouldnt be possible to do that with how we have to set this up. im not trying to run a race here, just get up steep hills better.

If you rigged up something like the c6's kickdown linkage, that would do exactly what you're asking for. In fact you can likely USE the c6 kickdown hardware to do it. Then just use a threaded rod to adjust where in the throttle you wanted it to engage.

 

[Hydro-idi]

I was kicking this idea around when it was going to be either propane or HHO injection. I would think the propane would give an idi a more complete burn and help out the power, but even if the system did give you more mileage, that wouldn't matter because you are spending around $15 bucks to fill up a dinky 5 gallon jug. I couldn't justify another fuel expense like that which is why I just installed a custom HHO kit. It adds power and mileage at the same time........however I think propane would add even more power. Depends on what floats your boat

 

[bagpiperjosh]

I was kicking this idea around when it was going to be either propane or HHO injection. I would think the propane would give an idi a more complete burn and help out the power, but even if the system did give you more mileage, that wouldn't matter because you are spending around $15 bucks to fill up a dinky 5 gallon jug. I couldn't justify another fuel expense like that which is why I just installed a custom HHO kit. It adds power and mileage at the same time........however I think propane would add even more power. Depends on what floats your boat

i would like to learn about that, do you have a build thread? how much did that cost?

 

[idiabuse]

I never considered those two a good combination

Smells like a gawd awful barbecue grill.

beats filling up at the fuel station and making the wallet lighter.


Javier

 

[Willie Two]

A good place to find parts is a shop that services / installs propane systems in cars. I found a local shop that did Taxis Cabs, they were a great help as they had all the valves, switches etc. I also installed a fail safe that would not let the system operate unless the engine had oil pressure present.

 

[Hydro-idi]

I need to make up a build thread one of these days. I just haven't had time to do so with school and work occupying most of my time. I spent 200 on my system and it works great

 

[IHcornbinder]

beats filling up at the fuel station and making the wallet lighter.


Javier

I would agree. Every time someone asks me why my truck smells like its on fire I tell them that is the smell politiions make when you screw them out of tax money.....