Oil fill quantity

TomC

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Just need to ask a question regarding oil fill levels. My truck will use oil down to the add mark on the stick then use no more between changes. Is is permissable to just add 8 quarts instead of 10 on the oil change? I prefill the filter with the change. Then I would put 2 gallons in and go.
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Have you ever checked it hot? Pete over on TDS posted a Ford TSB about it and it stated how much oil would expand when it got up to temp.
 

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That's what the tech that visited the IDI Weekend out in PA (a few years ago) said. He said that checking the oil when cold would yeild a low reading. He instructed us to warm the engine up then let it settle for a few minutes then stick it. I never did check it cold then warm it up to see just how much it changed. Maybe someone could do that... hint hint...
 

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My truck always takes 3 gallon (12qt) every oilchange. I use the stock (short) filter and there is no modifications to the oil pan. I'll try checking it hot and see if its overfull :confused:
 

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argve said:
That's what the tech that visited the IDI Weekend out in PA (a few years ago) said. He said that checking the oil when cold would yeild a low reading. He instructed us to warm the engine up then let it settle for a few minutes then stick it. I never did check it cold then warm it up to see just how much it changed. Maybe someone could do that... hint hint...


Ok, I did it. Mine took almost 3 gallons to completely fill (cold of course) with the large filter after a short run time to completely fill the filter. Then, when brought to temp and checked, I was about 3/8 maybe a little more of an inch or what I would presume to be close to 1 quart overfilled. I didn't believe it would make that much difference, but low and behold, I let it sit (Pete warned me it would go up) and the next day it was right on the full mark! I drained one quart using an empty jug and rechecked that night hot, then 10 minute drain back and it was right on full. Cooled again and it showed about 1 quart low, not exactly 1 quart but very close. The TSB Pete posted had an expansion range and IIRC it said you cold be up to 1 1/2 quarts overfilled after bringing to temp. The TSB stated that at that point, oil would be burnt. I am not sure if that is the level oil reached the rotating crank or what, but it explains the burn 1 - 2 quarts then stop using any oil problem, it sure worked on mine!!! They even said how you insert the dipstick makes a difference and that the loop should be toward the valve cover!
 

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Good to know, I'm due for an oil change. I'll try that and see if it makes a difference. I've been doing it this way for over 50K so I doubt that the extra 2 qts are going to hurt anything. But ya never know. cookoo
 
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