teletech
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Has anyone here spent any time with the old cornbinder VCO190?
I found a 1960 near me that is pretty cool, apart from the 478 cubic-inch gas engine.
Said motor makes 230HP@3600RPM and I'm told gets 2-3MPG!
It's an automatic, a very early Allison. It would be cool to at least keep the shifter, might not be feasible to keep the transmission unless I can re-gear the rearend. I'm inclined to leave it an automatic since that is how the truck shipped and I don't like the idea of trying to deal with all the ramifications of a manual gearbox in a cabover truck.
GVWR is currently 34K, GCWR not listed but it's a single-axle road tractor but around 50K.
(yeah, yeah, CDL... it's time for that with my F800 anyway)
So, options...
I could drop in a turbo 7.3IDI, wouldn't make quite as much power but the motor is small (comparatively) and stupidly cheap up front and for parts down the road. (I also have a 6.9 van, so very familiar)
E4OD might get me the revs, not sure about the load on that transmission though.
I happen to have a gen-1 Cummins 5.9 sitting here, needs some head work but otherwise it's a low-hours engine.
I own it and parts are also easy to come by but I'd have to find a transmission for it and honestly all the other options are likely cheaper since I often see complete trucks I could use a a donor for less than a good Allison and then I have to do the integration.
DT466, keeps the truck all International and would be plenty of power. I might be able to score one for not a ton of cash out of a retired MDT since I'm in California and our diesel regulations basically outlawed any large commercial diesel with an engine more than about 10 years old, result: super cheap MDTs
MD3060 would be the obvious transmission for this, if it isn't too long for this short-wheelbase (111") truck
New-Holland/Ford 6.6L, putting a ford motor in an International is sort of backwards from the norm and the 6.6 doesn't make any more power than a 7.3, it's just more relaxed doing so, but it's often a p-pump motor and is cheap up front and another motor I already support. I think the 7.8 might be just too tall and is scarce anyway.
Going from gas to diesel, even with a slow-revving gas motor means I'll have to re-gear unless, unless I find a fairly tall overdrive automatic.
the cab+chassis is currently 8K. I'd like the ability to haul a trailer that might come to about 27K (It's a little tank, but armor is heavy), the usual towed load would be more like 10K . That seems like a lot to ask of a 7.3. I'm very worried about the total height of the DT466 under the cabover. I'm looking for the lowest cost per-mile and could easily put 100K on a rig like this over my lifetime, so better mileage is worth something up-front.
What am I forgetting?
I found a 1960 near me that is pretty cool, apart from the 478 cubic-inch gas engine.
Said motor makes 230HP@3600RPM and I'm told gets 2-3MPG!
It's an automatic, a very early Allison. It would be cool to at least keep the shifter, might not be feasible to keep the transmission unless I can re-gear the rearend. I'm inclined to leave it an automatic since that is how the truck shipped and I don't like the idea of trying to deal with all the ramifications of a manual gearbox in a cabover truck.
GVWR is currently 34K, GCWR not listed but it's a single-axle road tractor but around 50K.
(yeah, yeah, CDL... it's time for that with my F800 anyway)
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So, options...
I could drop in a turbo 7.3IDI, wouldn't make quite as much power but the motor is small (comparatively) and stupidly cheap up front and for parts down the road. (I also have a 6.9 van, so very familiar)
E4OD might get me the revs, not sure about the load on that transmission though.
I happen to have a gen-1 Cummins 5.9 sitting here, needs some head work but otherwise it's a low-hours engine.
I own it and parts are also easy to come by but I'd have to find a transmission for it and honestly all the other options are likely cheaper since I often see complete trucks I could use a a donor for less than a good Allison and then I have to do the integration.
DT466, keeps the truck all International and would be plenty of power. I might be able to score one for not a ton of cash out of a retired MDT since I'm in California and our diesel regulations basically outlawed any large commercial diesel with an engine more than about 10 years old, result: super cheap MDTs
MD3060 would be the obvious transmission for this, if it isn't too long for this short-wheelbase (111") truck
New-Holland/Ford 6.6L, putting a ford motor in an International is sort of backwards from the norm and the 6.6 doesn't make any more power than a 7.3, it's just more relaxed doing so, but it's often a p-pump motor and is cheap up front and another motor I already support. I think the 7.8 might be just too tall and is scarce anyway.
Going from gas to diesel, even with a slow-revving gas motor means I'll have to re-gear unless, unless I find a fairly tall overdrive automatic.
the cab+chassis is currently 8K. I'd like the ability to haul a trailer that might come to about 27K (It's a little tank, but armor is heavy), the usual towed load would be more like 10K . That seems like a lot to ask of a 7.3. I'm very worried about the total height of the DT466 under the cabover. I'm looking for the lowest cost per-mile and could easily put 100K on a rig like this over my lifetime, so better mileage is worth something up-front.
What am I forgetting?
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