CNG Injection

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I wish there were CNG stations around here and more readily available kits to convert. Most people dont realize that CNG is literally DIRT CHEAP right now and will be for years to come...
 

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It is funny, but with modern electronics it is possible to differentiate between normal diesel combustion noises and other issues.
 

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I wish there were CNG stations around here and more readily available kits to convert. Most people dont realize that CNG is literally DIRT CHEAP right now and will be for years to come...

I picked up a tank tonight... dang thing is still full of fuel. Came out of a Suburban with a bad transmission that the owner decided to part out. $350 with the manual valve PRD and brackets. Expires 11/2015. I'm going to need to have the brackets sandblasted and get them painted though. Excited to see how this works out.
 

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I picked up a tank tonight... dang thing is still full of fuel. Came out of a Suburban with a bad transmission that the owner decided to part out. $350 with the manual valve PRD and brackets. Expires 11/2015. I'm going to need to have the brackets sandblasted and get them painted though. Excited to see how this works out.

CNG hasnt even come close to hitting around here. Kits are few and far between, and stations even fewer. That may change in the future, but would be years off at best.
 

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There is a reason for that. The EPA and CARB want every kit certified for every possible combination. Each test comes at considerable expense. Its all fairly wasteful considering that CNG drops emissions across the board on every application. Manufacturers and resellers of kits must concentrate on high payback scenarios- these are fleets and .guv vehicles, leaving the average consumer out of the game unless you want to buy a dedicated NGV. Luckily our state lawmakers saw the folly in this and passed a bill that allows conversions to be done by CSA certified techs. These then have to pass the same emissions standard as the year they were built. Seems far too sensible, doesn't it??

My dad has been driving a dual fueled CNG F-350 for years. His came from a gas company auction. He claims that it is cheaper to drive per mile than his motorcycle. Makes sense when fuel is 4 times the price- even a truck that gets 10 miles to the gallon will cost the same to run as a car getting 40 mpg. Now that fuel is coming down its closer to 3 times.

The company he worked for (retired) has a fleet of vans that run on CNG. 6 of them have gone over 1 million miles. Now that's Ford tough!!
 

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Luckily our state lawmakers saw the folly in this and passed a bill that allows conversions to be done by CSA certified techs. These then have to pass the same emissions standard as the year they were built. Seems far too sensible, doesn't it??

As does Wisconsin along with many other states. The problem isnt with the conversion so much as it with the distribution network of the fuel itself. THERE ISNT ONE, period. Natural gas is a relative new-comer to the fuel game, and society is geared for burning the much easier to transport and distribute petroleum. You can have all the fuel in the world, but without a readily available distribution system its useless. The cost to revamp our energy distibution grid would make the cost of CNG similar to conventional petroleum. But as the price of crude skyrockets, this will change. It hasnt SERIOUSLY hit yet, but the storms coming.
 

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Yeah, we are lucky in that regard. Fuel is readily available along most of the I-15 corridor from Idaho border to Vegas.
 

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Yeah, we are lucky in that regard. Fuel is readily available along most of the I-15 corridor from Idaho border to Vegas.

But is it readily available in the rural areas 30 miles from a major highway like gasoline or diesel? Probly not, and thats the problem. If a person has to drive 30 miles everytime they need to fill up, it pretty much negates the benefit of it.
 

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