94 IDI WATER/**** MUST READ
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im getting ready to do a setup of my own im very very interested in this!
papastruck
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Jason has added this to project 300 in Diesel Power this month, and the article has some good dyno info along with it.
papastruck
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I see they have the article online now.
http://www.dieselpowermag.com/tech/ford/1009dp_project_300_part_eight_1987_ford_f250/index.html
http://www.dieselpowermag.com/tech/ford/1009dp_project_300_part_eight_1987_ford_f250/index.html
papastruck
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Hypermax wants more than that for an intercooler, so it's comparable unless you retrofit something out of a yard. Me, I'm sticking with getting what I have up to ***** before heading there, but it looks interesting.
BioFarmer93
OPEC Hater
I responded to the other thread today about this, but since crazy2 isn't looking there any longer and asked for an update, I'll paste it here- Water/Alcohol Injection Results
When I first installed the system I was concerned about over injecting but it seems that my concerns were unfounded. To start I used two .008" nozzles and one .012". No difference in performance or mileage was noted. Next I went to two .012's and one .008 and noticed a very modest increase in power with fith gear roll-on's at 50 to 70mph. No ill effects of any manner were observed at this level. Now, I'm running three .015" nozzles @ 70psi on a 70% water 30% isopropyl (92%) mix. The system rarely gets used around town unless I'm taking the belt around to the other side or heading out to the property, because it's spraying enough at this point to start loading up the engine at idle. I don't hit the toggle unless I'm on the highway doing at least 45mph, at that point there is sufficient rpm to properly utilize the mix. Roll on power is unmistakably increased and hard accelerations (3,4 & 5) to get up to speed on an on-ramp no longer make sweaty palms. I still don't have a pyrometer, can't justify the expense at the moment, but the reduction of EGT's has already been verified in another thread here recently. Also, I picked up about 1mpg better mileage.
As an afterthought, with pump, hoses, clamps, brass bits & plumbing, nozzles, wire & switch, I have about $250 wrapped up in it. I'll try to get some pics by tomorrow evening.
When I first installed the system I was concerned about over injecting but it seems that my concerns were unfounded. To start I used two .008" nozzles and one .012". No difference in performance or mileage was noted. Next I went to two .012's and one .008 and noticed a very modest increase in power with fith gear roll-on's at 50 to 70mph. No ill effects of any manner were observed at this level. Now, I'm running three .015" nozzles @ 70psi on a 70% water 30% isopropyl (92%) mix. The system rarely gets used around town unless I'm taking the belt around to the other side or heading out to the property, because it's spraying enough at this point to start loading up the engine at idle. I don't hit the toggle unless I'm on the highway doing at least 45mph, at that point there is sufficient rpm to properly utilize the mix. Roll on power is unmistakably increased and hard accelerations (3,4 & 5) to get up to speed on an on-ramp no longer make sweaty palms. I still don't have a pyrometer, can't justify the expense at the moment, but the reduction of EGT's has already been verified in another thread here recently. Also, I picked up about 1mpg better mileage.
As an afterthought, with pump, hoses, clamps, brass bits & plumbing, nozzles, wire & switch, I have about $250 wrapped up in it. I'll try to get some pics by tomorrow evening.
I've read so many threads since I signed up, I don't know if I'm coming or going.
BioFarmer93
OPEC Hater
@Crazy2- wasn't fussin', just explaining
icanfixall
Official GMM hand model
FWIW,
It was mentioned here that if the turbo is done right it won't create vacuum. My rig has a stock banks sidewinder setup with a slightly tweaked wastegate rod and psd intercooler. I have an aftermarket boost gauge that also shows vacuum.
If I'm pulling something heavy I run the rpms up pretty high before shifting gears. I can be seeing 8-10 lbs (or more sometimes) of boost before shifting. When I push the clutch in to shift gears I see a momentary deflection into the vacuum side of the gauge. To me it seems far enough to believe there could be a slight vacuum upon shifting, and not just the needle of the gauge over travelling on it's way back to zero. I've never been bothered by it, but I've never had an inclining to run water/****.
Paul
It was mentioned here that if the turbo is done right it won't create vacuum. My rig has a stock banks sidewinder setup with a slightly tweaked wastegate rod and psd intercooler. I have an aftermarket boost gauge that also shows vacuum.
If I'm pulling something heavy I run the rpms up pretty high before shifting gears. I can be seeing 8-10 lbs (or more sometimes) of boost before shifting. When I push the clutch in to shift gears I see a momentary deflection into the vacuum side of the gauge. To me it seems far enough to believe there could be a slight vacuum upon shifting, and not just the needle of the gauge over travelling on it's way back to zero. I've never been bothered by it, but I've never had an inclining to run water/****.
Paul
