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1st post. Advice on safely re-starting a 94 7.3

Discussion in '6.9L IH & 7.3L IDI Diesels' started by 8gitmusik1, Jan 14, 2019.

  1. Knuckledragger

    Knuckledragger blowing chunks

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    It seems you have not yet started it up, so maybe I am not late to the party.

    My truck sat for over ten years and started right up on the fuel in the tank. Might be a little different in GA with condensation , possible algae and whatnot. Your results may vary.

    Good luck!
     
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  2. frankenwrench

    frankenwrench overkill is under rated!

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    I do not unfortunately. I have the 6.9 pump.
     
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    Exhumis Registered User

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    Oh yeah I know man, just giving you a ration. I can't blame you since it's your transportation; I have the luxury of my truck being for hunting and recreation. Glad to hear you're safe, that's the main thing.
     
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    That's a good possibility.
    Sometimes it's a curse, other times it's a blessing.
     
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  5. frankenwrench

    frankenwrench overkill is under rated!

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    Raining pretty bad still? Haven't seen any updates. Hope all is well bud
     
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  6. 8gitmusik1

    8gitmusik1 1994_E350_7.3_IDI_N/A_E4OD

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    Hey Frankenwrench and other fellow OB's:

    Had to get back off the van for a bit. On to other projects temporarily, like riding mower oil/filter, blades, prep and de-winterizing and prep for weed wacker/string trimmer, hedge trimmer, etc. Fun in the spring rain, I meant sun, lol.

    Yep, spring has definitely sprung! My grass and weeds in the yard are getting out of control already because of all the rain and also weather warming up. I got some pics of some of the van fixes, etc but been too busy, with other stuff to edit them and then post.

    Thanks for checking in with me, I hope all is well in your world bud.

    I'll get back on here soon with updates over the weekend, if......... it doesnt start raining again, lol. Heck, if it does, maybe then, i'll have some time to edit and add comments to some of these pictures...we'll see...

    All the best to all ya'll "Oil Burners" out there!

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  7. 8gitmusik1

    8gitmusik1 1994_E350_7.3_IDI_N/A_E4OD

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    Finally got back to fixin' my van, thought after doing the yard maintnence stuff and seeing Wes at CDD clean up the engine on proj. Rewbrooks, I'd use some degreaser and some elbow grease and clean up the engine while I have been doing all the other stuff BEFORE 1st re-start.

    Low and behold, darn it but, I believe I've found the problem with the water getting into the oil pan and the oil running down the back, near the drain underneath the CDR.

    How?

    Got out the shop vac, rigged an extension with a reduction angle on the end of the hose and was cleaning up the galley pan near the IP because it had pine straw in there and it I see that it has a hole rusted in it, below the crud, there it was, a rusty pit in the valley pan cover. ARGGHH,!?

    I dont know what Im gonna do next. I'm not a diesel mechanic, but this...HOUSTON, WE HAVE APROBLEM, time. And, realistically, Im not qualified to pull everything apart, I dont think anyway.

    Frustrated is an understatement.

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  8. 8gitmusik1

    8gitmusik1 1994_E350_7.3_IDI_N/A_E4OD

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    Oilburners with 7.3 idi's....

    Does this mean removing the IP and fuel hard lines, then removing the intake and water pump and everything else on the top and front of the engine. It seems like this is what I'm going to be up for? Any input? What does a shop charge for replacing a oil gally/valley pan? Help please....

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  9. Thewespaul

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    That’s typical for engines that have set for a long long time with water on the engine. You will need to remove the injection pump, intake manifold and injection lines. Mark the pump where it’s at now and realign it when you’re done. Water pump stays in place, you don’t even need to pull the valve covers off. Here’s a picture of what it looks like without the intake in place. 1D7FFE87-7F78-4A2B-AB66-41071099737B.jpeg
     
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    Plan B solution - Get in there, wire brush the pitted area, clean it all up with acetone/mek... then use Permatex 1-minute-gasket and just glue it up - should be a much easier fix and it's not under pressure anyway...
     
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    If it's a real small hole, maybe you could clean it up really good, scratch it up with some coarse grit sand paper and then use something like JB Weld to patch it. Maybe you could even use some RTV since there's no oil pressure here. And look, Macrobb beat me to it.
     
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  12. 8gitmusik1

    8gitmusik1 1994_E350_7.3_IDI_N/A_E4OD

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    thewespaul,mcrobb and idibronco

    Guys, you have been steadfast and solid, and if I ever meet ya, #oilburner brothers, in the flesh, get ready for a bear hug, not just a big paw shake.

    First, thanks for giving a darn enough to post responses and, various solutions/fixes. BIG THUMBS UP to Ya'll.

    Now, the dirty, the size of the hole is not a pinhole. Its quarter size, and who knows, more rust may exist additionally where I cant see?

    Brothers, bronco and mcrobb, JB is an option, and I'll get some pics up over the weekend but, I'm thinking Wes, may have said it best.

    It is looking like a complete pan to do it right. Just never have been this deep in an Idi outdoors attempting this large and deep a repair. Gettin old and having low bucks just sux, don't ya know..anyway...

    It'd fo' sho', be easier in a dry shop, with a qualified diesel mech. at the ready but I got ya'll, maybe I can manage it...

    Lol, God, I wish, but, here I sit, 4 months into no transportation, big bux already spent all in and still a big repair ahead. Not whinin', just a bit perplexed ya'll, lol.

    More pics, info, advice will help to kick me into gear like a mule.

    Lord knows it'll be a dandy if I could pull this off.

    Q: Anyone clue whats a pan and gasket set gonna run, and foremost, for you 20 and 30 yr. old guys, do ya really think (encouragement is much needed, lol) can an old cuss' do this new malady justice and make it right?

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    Honestly, with a scrap of metal, you could patch just about any size hole, then slather the surrounding area in silicone stuff.
    Then, you can get the engine running and driving, worry about fixing it 'right' later, once everything has been tested and you know what else to replace while you are in that deep.
     
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    Like macrobb said I would patch it till you get around to it it's not a pressure vessle and it won't hurt. Anything but to be a purest yes change the valley pan
     
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    8gitmusik1 1994_E350_7.3_IDI_N/A_E4OD

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    So, Mcrobb, bud,
    Over the weekend, ill clean some more and see if there is more complete errosion of the pan in other areas. If Im only dealing with the one large hole, I have a good amount of aluminum treadplate scrap. Could this be used as a patch? Also, I know youve been deep in many 7.3 idis so, what is exactly underneath the pan below the IP. What will go permently wrong if I dont get in ther and clean, vaccum up any pan parts, pine starw, etc. That may have gotten into the area below. The oil galley pan.....

    Anyone else, please join the fun, lol.

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