Frantz Bypass Oil Filter

[idiabuse]

It is awesome that people buy the bypass to mount on a vehicle and never do it! That says alot!

Keeping the engine free of soot and contamination from the garage space you stored it in, Priceless...



Javier

 

[160k87F250]

Is it really worth installing a bypass kit if you only drive your truck 5k or so per year? I still dont quite understand why you would want to bypass the oil filter.

John

 

[swervyjoe]

Is it really worth installing a bypass kit if you only drive your truck 5k or so per year? I still dont quite understand why you would want to bypass the oil filter.

John

Its in addition to the stock filter

 

[160k87F250]

Its in addition to the stock filter

lol, now Im really confused. So its an additional filter kit used in conjunction with the stock oil filter?

 

[swervyjoe]

Yeah, it filters finer than the stock filter, but doesn't flow as well. They are plummed in like a side loop.

 

[idiabuse]

when adding a bypass filter the idea is that once installed the need for changing the oil is ditched.
Taking oil analysis is cheaper method of maintaining the lubricant and filtration.

Most likely if the analysis lab says to change the oil due to excesive levels of contamination it will
be most likely the engine needs to be removed for repair.

Great part is watching all these guys posting threads on coolant in the oil and is usually thousands of miles
of injestion and engine damage before they ever knew what hit them.
They always catch the ingression of coolant when it is at it's highest, turning the oil milky.

In reality an oil sample trending program would catch that leak months/years in advance.

Talk about a FACE/PALM moment for alot of ASE Certified Mechanics that have never purchased
or used any type of oil analysis.

Changing oil often using cheap oil/filters is not CHEAP INSURANCE.

More like lack of research and fear of finding out the truth.
I Always put bypass filters on my vehicles because I dont change oil because
I dont believe that using shelf grade product's protect my engines.
In fact I know they dont.
When I purchase filters I look for the unadvertised Extra Efficiency Micro Glass filters
for my engine and fuel filters that usually cost 3X more than the OEM items.
Why? Because they LAST LONGER!

How much is a WIX 1734XE compared to a WIX 1734? Want the best? NAH you DONT!



Javier

Javier

 

[Hydro-idi]

They will help keep the oil much cleaner. But if they were really needed, all vehicles would be equipped with them from the factory. They just make the vehicle owner feel better about how clean their engine oil is and may extend the oil change interval. As far as these bypass oil filters giving the engine more power and fuel economy because they aren't "grinding as much dirt up" in the engine, that is not true. That would be like me stating that my truck mpg decreases when the bugs hit my windshield when going down the highway because there is more drag. There is not a big enough difference to even consider that theory. I have seen many diesel engines go for many 100k miles without them and they are still on the road kicking strong. I think the quality of oil and oil change intervals are more important in my opinion.
I have not considered a bypass oil filtration kit because it is introducing another weak link to the system that may have the potential to fail. When/if that were to happen, you lose your engine.

 

[91idi]

It is awesome that people buy the bypass to mount on a vehicle and never do it! That says alot!

Keeping the engine free of soot and contamination from the garage space you stored it in, Priceless...



Javier

It says the truck has sat since last summer in storage. I bought the filter but couldn't decide what truck to mount it on. I have had a surgery and every time I start to fell like messing with my
Truck I get another stupid bug. Maybe I'll have free time with nothing better to do than play with trucks that are hobbies

 

[idiabuse]

They will help keep the oil much cleaner. But if they were really needed, all vehicles would be equipped with them from the factory. They just make the vehicle owner feel better about how clean their engine oil is and may extend the oil change interval. As far as these bypass oil filters giving the engine more power and fuel economy because they aren't "grinding as much dirt up" in the engine, that is not true. That would be like me stating that my truck mpg decreases when the bugs hit my windshield when going down the highway because there is more drag. There is not a big enough difference to even consider that theory. I have seen many diesel engines go for many 100k miles without them and they are still on the road kicking strong. I think the quality of oil and oil change intervals are more important in my opinionI have not considered a bypass oil filtration kit because it is introducing another weak link to the system that may have the potential to fail. When/if that were to happen, you lose your engine.

Imagine a dealership that has no need to repair engines because people all use synthetic oils and long drain filters! Go to Ford and ask for their bypass filter system? ROFLMAO!
They Need failures to happen to make revenue. Yet you trust everything they tell you? Ask any 6.0/6.4 owner if they trust the dealer...
Cars/trucks are made to last 5 years BUY A NEW ONE!
To prove your point about manufatures using quality let me inform you how and why Chevrolet started using Mobil1 in every Corvette produced. 6 Calloway Vettes still brand new at the dealer had damaged engines from cold starts and the camshaft bores on the top of the heads were galled from lack of lubrication at cold start.
Now imagine they had a product they trusted up until that failure. So now they all use Mobil1.

So yes sometimes the Performance field will need a better performing oil.

Javier

 

[idiabuse]

I wouldn't mention it if I didn't know anything about it...

http://machinerylubrication.com/Read/24534/cheap-oil-filters

http://machinerylubrication.com/Read/28508/bypass-filters

Typically, the very best full-flow filters exhibit a capture efficiency of 50 percent at particle sizes of 10 microns and above. Smaller soot suspension and polar insolubles that can also cause wear and deposits are not controlled effectively by these full-flow filters. For this reason, compressed cellulose depth media used as bypass filters can offer benefits in removing fine organic and inorganic particles. In combination with full-flow filters, the benefits can be lower wear, lower oil consumption, higher combustion efficiency and longer oil life. There are a variety of bypass filters on the market, including centrifugal separators

 

[Hydro-idi]

Many engine failures are caused because oil isn't changed regularly. Not because it is in need of a bypass oil filter. FYI, the 6.0/6.4 powerstroke owners do not trust the dealership mechanics (back in the day) because the engines were rushed into production and our mechanics did not have the proper training and or capabilities to work on these engines when they were having major recall issues. Proper identification of 6.0/6.4 powerstroke problems was difficult for ford mechanics to understand initially. They are better understood now though.

 

[icanfixall]

I will be installing a bypass oil filter on my engine. It can't hurt anything. Using the correct fittings and rubber hose plus protecting the hose is the best way to limit exposure to failures. As for needing the bypass.. Sure we need it to rid us of the crabon and soot from blowby. I may not run Amsoil or Mobil 1 but I will run what works. I'm not hopeing for more mpg or hp running a bypass filter. I understand what they do. They bleed off a small amount of oil. Send it thru a finer media slowly. Then return it to the engine oil pan in some form. Because I don't run a mechanical lift pump that block off plate now will be my return location. I may even remove the plate and fabricate a cover plate from 1/4 inch aluminum. I just think that looks better than crome and knowing that cover is a chevy part.. Its kinda upseting that its on my engine...

 

[Hydro-idi]

Because I don't run a mechanical lift pump that block off plate now will be my return location. I may even remove the plate and fabricate a cover plate from 1/4 inch aluminum. I just think that looks better than crome and knowing that cover is a chevy part.. Its kinda upseting that its on my engine...

 

[idiabuse]

bypass

Here is a couple pics of my engine that killed a cylinder from a collapsing lower rad hose.
I had 47,000 miles with no oil change.
The engine pictured had 120,000 miles that I drove it all together, who knows before 1999 before I owned it.

I think the pictures can be compared to many other pictures of engines with conventional fluids and short drain intervals.

These pictures show that even after 5 years and 47,000 miles of pure IDIABUSE that the bypass system kept any sediment from settling on my engine causing wear.
Now with that being said The engine did fail but not from lack of lubrication or lack of filtration.

Why change the oil so often if you just may kill the engine some other way? One way to look at it.


Javier

 

[Hydro-idi]

Idiabuse, we understand you are trying to push for everyone to use amsoil products and bypass oil filtration systems. You have made your point very clear many other times before in different threads. Leave the people alone who choose not to use amsoil and I'm sure others would appreciate if you didn't critique others choices all the time. This is not other vehicle forums where every thread is a ******* match because of the people who choose to go too far to prove their point or theory. Don't take this the wrong way.