WVO for luberication only

[Kevin 007]

I am constantly looking for ways to improve lubricity in the rigs that I run which have the stanadyne DB-2 injection pump. Ford idi's and the occasional 6.2l I have never seen a pump fail so frequently due to ULSD as the DB-2.
Anyways, I have used nearly every type of fuel conditioner on the market and there is no question that some dor quite well but I want to know if about a gallon of CLEAN WVO was added to a tankful would boost lubricity. Im not doing it to save money or the envoriment or anything, just want a quality product

I have acsess to great WVO that the fella filters down to 2 microns in a nice clean shop and he sells it. I don't want to run straigt veg oil beacuse I don't want to deal with the chewing away at rubber fuel lines, gelling and all the rest. So would it be worth while to add a gallon or so per tank for lubrictiy?

This would be a small enough veg to diesel ratio so I would not even wo

 

[h2odrx]

not sure if wvo would be best but convert it to bio and it will up the lubricity 65%

 

[Kevin 007]

Well my understanding is that bio-diesel is diesel fuel mixed with veg....the two mixed together will result in ''bio-diesel" ......unless of course I am mistaken; which happens often

So what im getting at is my fuel would be about 90-95% diesel and 5-10% veg......

Im just wondering if that would be enough veg to make a fair lubrication boost. I will not be converting to straight veg, don't want the hassle due to the lack of time and room. So if a small dose of veg in each tank will not be adequate in regards to lubrication, I will just keep running straight pump diesel with Howes or 2 stroke for lube.

 

[h2odrx]

Well my understanding is that bio-diesel is diesel fuel mixed with veg....the two mixed together will result in ''bio-diesel" ......unless of course I am mistaken; which happens often

So what im getting at is my fuel would be about 90-95% diesel and 5-10% veg......

Im just wondering if that would be enough veg to make a fair lubrication boost. I will not be converting to straight veg, don't want the hassle due to the lack of time and room. So if a small dose of veg in each tank will not be adequate in regards to lubrication, I will just keep running straight pump diesel with Howes or 2 stroke for lube.

no that is just mixed, to make bio you got to convert the veg with methxoide....

 

[Brad S.]

Most of times when you see a B5, B10, tag its 10% biodiesel, with 90% regular diesel fuel, but don't run it when it gets cold. Even the 5% mixture is bad in cold weather(if the temp averages 40 degrees I wouldn't run it)
During warm weather I think its great from what I've heard.
Around here the biodiesel is made from soybeans. Theres a plant by Worthington MN, that takes in soybeans and makes soyoil and soybean meal for animal feed. The soyoil then is processed into biodiesel thru the chemical process.

 

[h2odrx]

Most of times when you see a B5, B10, tag its 10% biodiesel, with 90% regular diesel fuel, but don't run it when it gets cold. Even the 5% mixture is bad in cold weather(if the temp averages 40 degrees I wouldn't run it)
During warm weather I think its great from what I've heard.
Around here the biodiesel is made from soybeans. Theres a plant by Worthington MN, that takes in soybeans and makes soyoil and soybean meal for animal feed. The soyoil then is processed into biodiesel thru the chemical process.

Ati-gel works wonders.....

 

[Kevin 007]

Ah...my mistake in the original post; I guess I should have said bio instead of WVO.
The product that I will be using and stuff I have made "was" WVO at one point and then brewed, separated from the glycerin, washed and whatnot and the "bio-diesel" that results is then burned as fuel.

So again, my mistake; so to re-phrase my question:
-Will a small portion of bio-diesel (a gallon or so) mixed in with a tank of pump diesel, be considered to be a good lubricator? Or will I have to up my dosage to make a noticeable difference in lube?

I just don't want to go too rich with the bio-diesel blend because I don't want any of its effects on rubber parts and the solvent effect is seems to have.

 

[Brad S.]

Your right h2odrx, that stuff does work really good, but thinking I might have to change filter in really cold weather is less & less fun.

I did a little experiment a couple years ago during the winter with small clear glass jars. Took off the shelf veg oil and mixed with no.1 or kerro cant remember. The 2 jars that had the highest percentage of "thin" fuel even froze solid, 75 & 90 percent. I think the overnight temp was 5 or 10 degrees. Thats kinda one reason I using wmo instead of wvo, little better in cold weather.
Now to be fair & balanced I did hear a report today that production of biodiesel yields more energy(they werent specific) than goes in.

 

[h2odrx]

Ah...my mistake in the original post; I guess I should have said bio instead of WVO.
The product that I will be using and stuff I have made "was" WVO at one point and then brewed, separated from the glycerin, washed and whatnot and the "bio-diesel" that results is then burned as fuel.

So again, my mistake; so to re-phrase my question:
-Will a small portion of bio-diesel (a gallon or so) mixed in with a tank of pump diesel, be considered to be a good lubricator? Or will I have to up my dosage to make a noticeable difference in lube?

I just don't want to go too rich with the bio-diesel blend because I don't want any of its effects on rubber parts and the solvent effect is seems to have.

Seeing you put it like that yes 1 gallon of bio to 99 of diesel will up lube by 65%.....

 

[Kevin 007]

Ok, good to hear.
That's what I will do then. About a gallon or so per tank. Can't match a 65% increase in lubricity with any additive im sure!!


Is there a fomula or something you use to come up with the 65% number?

 

[h2odrx]

Ok, good to hear.
That's what I will do then. About a gallon or so per tank. Can't match a 65% increase in lubricity with any additive im sure!!


Is there a fomula or something you use to come up with the 65% number?

It was on some testing site some where, or maybe a book I read.......

 

[Matrix37495]

Here you go...

 

[bbjordan]

I have run a 50/50 mix of diesel & bio-diesel made from canola (rapeseed) down to -17C (1.4 F). 100% bio will cloud at about the freezing point of water according to the jar I keep outside the garage.

 

[Kevin 007]

Well I have burnt a gallon of clean veg per tank for 3 tanks now and have had no ill effects. Can't really notice a difference in the way it runs but im sure lubrication is up so im happy.
Just thought I would let you know.

 

[Kevin 007]

Had a little sputtering this morning as I started my idi on 10% biodiesel...just as it would with an air leak.

It has not done this since the new IP, lift pump and return lines 4 months ago....worth noting