lug checkers?

[X-NRCan_IDI]

The video on the wheel-check site explains it, the fine for a lost wheel in the USA is like $150 and it is $50,000 in Canada. I think anyway, I tried to watch it again and it isn't working at the moment.

just watching the vid. You're correct; up to $50,000 in Canada That DOES explain it pretty well... I figured it probably had to do with the Ministry of Transportation. To me, they make complete sense and are a hang of a lot easier to check loose nuts by than going around with a wrench to check every single one.
They said $117 to fully equip an 18-wheeler... I'd drop the money on it if it meant easier walk-around safety checks and lower risk of killing someone on the road!

 

[MIDNIGHT RIDER]

In reality, I have never seen or known of an instance where a big truck wheel ran off simply due to the lug-nuts backing off.

On the other hand, I have seen plenty where the whole hub, wheels, and everything came off.

I have also seen plenty where the center of the wheel is broken out and still firmly bolted on the hub.

It is not un-common at all for one to come crippling in to the shop with the inside wheel rattling around loose and the outside wheel also nearly broken apart.

 

[Greg5OH]

wondering if it would be worth it if we did a group buy on a set for our lug size?

 

[Greg5OH]

well damn it. they dont have orange ones in 1-1/16.
wanted that black/orange international theme

edit: could order apparantly

 

[The Warden]

well damn it. they dont have orange ones in 1-1/16.
wanted that black/orange international theme

edit: could order apparantly

FWIW they have them listed in red/orange at 1-1/16" here: http://www.uniquetruck.com/p-15444-wheel-check.aspx

 

[93IDIT]

In reality, I have never seen or known of an instance where a big truck wheel ran off simply due to the lug-nuts backing off.

On the other hand, I have seen plenty where the whole hub, wheels, and everything came off.

I have also seen plenty where the center of the wheel is broken out and still firmly bolted on the hub.

It is not un-common at all for one to come crippling in to the shop with the inside wheel rattling around loose and the outside wheel also nearly broken apart.

On my way up to Everette WA last weekend, I passed a semi that was on the right and missing the left front wheel. The hub looked mostly intact on the truck. I couldn't tell if it was embedded in the pavement or if it had ground off as it looked like the disk pad surface was missing on the bottom.

I saw the tire about an eighth of a mile down the road on the left perched up against the guard rail. All the lug holes looked fine at a glance so I assume the lugs worked loose or broke off.

Looks like they could have used these

 

[Hydro-idi]

Wait a second. So some of you are saying that if a wheel shears off of your vehicle...or comes off some other way, that person will be fined 50k in Canada? I don't mean to be harsh but that sounds worse than some of the laws that are here in California.

 

[X-NRCan_IDI]

Wait a second. So some of you are saying that if a wheel shears off of your vehicle...or comes off some other way, that person will be fined 50k in Canada? I don't mean to be harsh but that sounds worse than some of the laws that are here in California.

They said "up to $50k. I think in most cases it wouldn't be that much, but depending on the situation it'd be more. For instance, if someone gets killed/badly injured, and the driver is clearly at fault due to sheer negligence and what not, then it'd be more likely to be $50k. If a guy just lost a wheel in some sort of freak scenario and nobody/nothing got hurt/damaged, it prob. wouldn't be such a big fine.

All the same, I do find some Canadian laws are a bit crazy. We used to have a long-gun registry that cost the gov't a couple billion when it was only supposed to be a couple million.

 

[Greg5OH]

got a quote from wheel-check, 100 pack bag of orange ones are $75. so i would have 2 complete sets of 32 pieces left over if anyone is interested in purchasing some from me? Price would be 25-30$ for a set, depending how much shipping is to me. Plus shipping to you. i cant imagine it being more than 5-6$.
pm me if interested.
this is for 1-1/16" lug size, orange hi temp, set of 32 (plus 1 or 2 spares)

 

[Greg5OH]

in regards to the wheels coming off, about 10 years ago it was a big big thing here in the gta, seems like every month there was a death on the highway due to a loose wheel.

 

[whiteboyslo]

But is the root cause to the wheel coming off that all the lugnuts somehow managed to back themselves off? Because that's the only root cause this will help solve. That's what I don't get. I would think the root cause would be improper torque or bad maintenance on the wheel bearings/hubs or something like that, none of which will be caught by these little arrow guys.

Mike

 

[Goofyexponent]

In reality, I have never seen or known of an instance where a big truck wheel ran off simply due to the lug-nuts backing off.

On the other hand, I have seen plenty where the whole hub, wheels, and everything came off.

I have also seen plenty where the center of the wheel is broken out and still firmly bolted on the hub.

It is not un-common at all for one to come crippling in to the shop with the inside wheel rattling around loose and the outside wheel also nearly broken apart.

One of the more "well used" dump trucks out of the pit about 4 years ago lost a single wheel. The hub was wore, the inner wheel starter workign back and forth and it litterally broke 4 of the 6 clamps and studs out of the dayton hub. The good thing is the tire went into the ditch and hit a rock face...if it had been on the left side of the rig...it wouldn't have been a good situation!

I have also seen the bud wheels break loose. The lugs back off and the ramaing lugs aren;t enough to hold it. I have seen one bud wheel broke right off the flange in the center. It was a trailer wheel, and it came off at highway speed. Luckiny it didn't hit no one as it crossed the highway and slammed into the side of the DOT scale house. . Now, the scales have guard rails surrounding it on all sides exposed to the highway.

 

[Goofyexponent]

They said "up to $50k. I think in most cases it wouldn't be that much, but depending on the situation it'd be more. For instance, if someone gets killed/badly injured, and the driver is clearly at fault due to sheer negligence and what not, then it'd be more likely to be $50k. If a guy just lost a wheel in some sort of freak scenario and nobody/nothing got hurt/damaged, it prob. wouldn't be such a big fine.

All the same, I do find some Canadian laws are a bit crazy. We used to have a long-gun registry that cost the gov't a couple billion when it was only supposed to be a couple million.

In the nova scotia handbook, it states that the fine is 50 000 and/or "X" number of years in jail for a lost wheel. Even if it is caused from bering failure, you should see a leaky wheel seal or notice a rumble.

I had one come off almost completely. The only thing honding the wheel on was one nut. The locking ring and outer nut were dangling around the axle shaft and no longer threaded on the spindle. I knew it was bad, because a wheel seal failed without warning. Not just started seeping, it was urinating fluid all over teh ground and brakes. I took it to the shop (4 miles away) at 35 MPH (50 km/h speed limit) and put it in the shop. I jacked it up and could move the whole hub, brakedrim and both tire/wheel assemblies with a bar up and down like an inch and a half.

If I went for one more load of asphalt and I might not be here to type this.

 

[X-NRCan_IDI]

just remembered I've got the Ontario handbook kickin around somewhere... I'll have to see what it says. I'd assume it'd be the same thing...

 

[79jasper]

Well supposedly bearing failure will cause the normal ones to melt/blister. So they're not only just to see if nuts are backing off.