Is this important??

[phazertwo]

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Yeah, tranny is all back together, tcase is on, just need fluid and shafts and its a driver (after the turbo is done). I was just getting done for the night when I saw that on the bench (it WAS sitting on the flywheel so I wouldn't forget it, but I had my buddy clean the flywheel and hand it to me under the truck. He didn't know.)

I don't want to have to take the tranny back out just for this ring. The new bolts that came with the South Bend Clutch SMF kit still pulled down tight. I have never seen these on my "Rice" trucks, so I have no idea if it is critical or not... just looks like a fancy washer that does 9 holes in one... I would imagine its so the bolts don't come out, but the SBC bolts had allot of red locktite on them.

Please advise!!!

PZ

 

[GenLightening]

I would recommend putting it back in. It reinforces the flywheel, and without it you may discover a 2 piece unit after a while. Diesel engines vibrate a bit more than a "ricer" and causes more stress to parts.

 

[SLC97SR5]

It does appear to help spread the load on the flywheel.

It sucks to have to remove the transmission again, but you will always worry about it when you head out wheeling.

Just decide that you are going to yank the sucker and have some peace of mind.

Good luck!

 

[icanfixall]

Yes it really needs to be installed because it spreads out the force holding the wheel in place.... Remember to apply thread sealant to all the crank flange bolts that hold the flywheel on. Otherwise oil will leak past the bolts threads. The rorque is 47 lbs.... Sorry you need to go back in so far but its for safetys sake... Years ago another member here had just got his engine running after pulling the heads when he found the spider web that holda all the lifter dog bones in place..... When I had just finished installing my oil pan while the engine was on the stand upside down I noticed the lock washer and nut for the oil pump pickup... The rtv seal had not set yet but what a mess it was... Used plenty of rags and gloves cleaning up that gooey mess.... Sometimes your the bug and sometimes your the windshield....

 

[phazertwo]

I knew the answer before I asked! Just hoping I guess. At least it's suppose to be 40 degrees today!

PZ

 

[Goofyexponent]

I knew the answer before I asked! Just hoping I guess. At least it's suppose to be 40 degrees today!

PZ

I got to agree, I installed this on mine when I put the ZF in. Sorry to be the bearer of bad news, but the good thing is you know ho wit all goes together now.

Thanks a million for measure those flywheel bolts in the other thread for me BTW, I checked them against my bolts and they are the same length.

 

[Goofyexponent]

Remember to apply thread sealant to all the crank flange bolts that hold the flywheel on. Otherwise oil will leak past the bolts threads.

Gary, when you say thread sealant, does blue loctite count? I put the gel loctite on all 9 bolts, and cranked them in until the torque wrench clicked at 47 ft. lbs. I should have a look at them when I put new brake lines to the rear of my truck this weekend coming.

 

[icanfixall]

Yes... Blue loctite is about as good as it gets... It seals and locks the bolts so nothing backs out. A couple of members have had these bolts back out and shear off.. Not a good feeling either...

 

[Goofyexponent]

I remembered the post from the night moose (I think it was the night moose) that Mel posted a while back. I was scared to DEATH putting these bolts in. I went to Caterpillar, bought all new grade 8 hardware, and blue loctited them in.

I also did the same with the pressure plate to fluwheel bolts. New grade 8 hardware, and blue loctite. Torqued to 20 Ft/Lbs? IIRC.

 

[phazertwo]

It's all fixed up and tranny is back in. That. Sucked.

PZ

 

[SLC97SR5]

It's all fixed up and tranny is back in. That. Sucked.

PZ

Good for you man, no worries now!

I just pulled out my ATS DP after replacing the IP and Turbo, just to re-weld a new tab to the DP so it would not slip out of the Turbo or chafe the transmission dipstick tube...it sucks but it sure is nice to have it done correctly!

 

[The Warden]

It's all fixed up and tranny is back in. That. Sucked.

PZ

Congrats on getting it all back together...I can imagine how much of a pain that was, but better safe than sorry, right?

With that said, now I'm scared...I don't think that piece was around on my T-19 flywheel, and it wasn't with the LuK kit that I put in with my ZF...I'm starting to wonder how important that piece is to be honest, I didn't even know such a part existed before now. I've seen spacers on the autos, but didn't know anything like that was needed with the manuals...