I was just curious......

[Death85e]

I was wondering since i am a little bit concerned about upper cylinder lubrication ( because we no longer get it from the sulphur that was in diesel fuel due to goverment regulation ) anyway back to the topic I was wondering if any of you have used or would use a product such as this one?!!?


http://www.ampcolubes.com

 

[johnboggs21]

I think the ULSD that we have to use already has an upper cylinder lube in it, but I have been wrong before.

 

[icanfixall]

Run something... Anything is better than nothing. The ulsd is killing our pumps and injectors. I run 4 ozs of stanadyne performance formula in every tank of diesel. Some will run trans fluid and others run Howes. There are pelnty of lubes you can run... Just run something....

 

[MIDNIGHT RIDER]

I was wondering since i am a little bit concerned about upper cylinder lubrication ( because we no longer get it from the sulphur that was in diesel fuel due to goverment regulation ) anyway back to the topic I was wondering if any of you have used or would use a product such as this one?!!?


http://www.ampcolubes.com

That is a new one on me.


Myself, I am a firm believer in adding an ounce/gallon of TC-W3 two-cycle engine oil to EVERY gallon of diesel that I use.


I buy the stuff at Walmart in gallon jugs.


Many forget the late 70s, when the government banned leaded gasoline.

Many is the set of valve seats in older engines that didn't last a week on un-leaded gas.

Many head shops did not know, or could not get, the newer replacement valve seats that could with-stand the lack of lead; so, even after getting a new set of valves/seats, it probably wouldn't last through another week.


Any claims of ULSD fuel lubricity or compatibility apply ONLY to newer engines that are intentionally designed to use the ULSD fuel.

The government, oil companies, EPA, vehicle manufacturers, and most of the general public could not care less what the effects of it on older engines is going to be.


ULSD, sooner or later, spells death to many components of the fuel-injection system of older engines.

These effects can take a couple years to begin to make themselves evident; so, those that claim to not notice anything negative with burning UN-TREATED ULSD fuel probably just haven't had it catch up with them yet.


Also, contrary to the claims of "added lubricity" on most of the more popular fuel "conditioners", it has pretty much been proven that they are nothing more than re-labeled paint-thinners that LESSEN lubricity, instead of adding it.


TC-W3 two-cycle mixed with the diesel has worked for me, so that is what I will continue to use.

 

[rhkcommander]

maybe a dumb question but does diesel kleen or that lucas crap lube it up any? ive used both

 

[MIDNIGHT RIDER]

maybe a dumb question but does diesel kleen or that lucas crap lube it up any? ive used both

I am not going to say YEA or NAY and start another "my stuff is better than your stuff" debate.

Suffice it to say that, myself, I would ONLY use those products in an attempt to "clean" injectors and have little confidence in any claims of "increasing lubricity".

 

[MIDNIGHT RIDER]

I was wondering since i am a little bit concerned about upper cylinder lubrication

For what it's worth, Injector-pump lubrication, and the lack there-of in ULSD, is a much more serious consideration in a diesel engine, than lack of upper cylinder lube.

 

[typ4]

The old guy that used to own the pump shop I use said if everyone used the Stanadyne additive his business would be cut in half. It has superior lubricity. I have used atf in the past, 2 cycle oil is great since it is designed to lube things that spin way faster than an IP.

And yes upper cylinder lube is a moot point.

 

[Death85e]

I appreciate all the replies everyone. Thank you all....I see now i should be more concerned about extra lubrication in the pump and injector areas as opposed to the upper cylinder...to bad we couldnt figure out how to add the afformentioned product into the fuel system so it would directly inject into the system just before the fuel pump so it could lubricate everything from that point onward.

Well again thanks everyone for the replies.

 

[david85]

Run something... Anything is better than nothing. The ulsd is killing our pumps and injectors. I run 4 ozs of stanadyne performance formula in every tank of diesel. Some will run trans fluid and others run Howes. There are pelnty of lubes you can run... Just run something....

I run stanadyne lubricity supplement. Have you tried lubricity and performance version? Notice any difference?

Asked my supplier (diesel injection shop) if he figured the performance supplement wasn't worth it since it treats half as much fuel and costs the same. Never tried it but I am curious. Even 1 MPG improvement would be enough to make up the cost. Would I be dreaming to see 2 MPG?

 

[THECACKLER]

Ditto on the Stanadyne Performance Formula. That's what I run. 1/4 of the 1 pint bottle per tank when filling. Howes is what some others run. Same ratio if I'm not mistaken, and just about the same price as well.
I am thinking about running Opti-Lube as I've read some good stuff about it, but that stuff has to be mail ordered. I get Stannies at the Diesel Shop down the street.

 

[MIDNIGHT RIDER]

The old guy that used to own the pump shop I use said if everyone used the Stanadyne additive his business would be cut in half.

I have not seen a pump shop yet that did not have a big Stanadyne display and really push the stuff.

For the average old Joe diesel owner with a couple diesel trucks and maybe a tractor or two, those guys might actually get to overhaul ONE pump per customer in that customer's lifetime; whereas, if they can get that same customer addicted to their brand of "supplements", they get to make a few nickels from that same once-in-a-lifetime customer on a regular basis.

 

[rjjp]

I tried optilube (no change in fuel mileage), but Diesel kleen by power service actually quiets my engine down more (less of the typical click clack).

 

[THECACKLER]

I have not seen a pump shop yet that did not have a big Stanadyne display and really push the stuff.

For the average old Joe diesel owner with a couple diesel trucks and maybe a tractor or two, those guys might actually get to overhaul ONE pump per customer in that customer's lifetime; whereas, if they can get that same customer addicted to their brand of "supplements", they get to make a few nickles from that same once-in-a-lifetime customer on a regular basis.

Well it makes sense that they get the additives from the same company they get their parts from if they are a certified re-builder doing Stanadyne Pumps.

 

[rhkcommander]

ill have to try the 2cyc oil, it blends in well with the diesel?