Help! Broken waterpump bolt

[79jasper]

Broke a waterpump bolt. Should I try to remove it?
This engine will be a temporary couple month runner while another is being rebuilt.

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[argve]

if you have my luck it will leak. so yep I would drill and use an extractor. I refrain from using the term "Easy Out" whom ever named them that never used one.....

 

[79jasper]

My thoughts exactly.
I have some of that elephant snot I was gonna smear all over it.

 

[riotwarrior]

My thoughts exactly.
I have some of that elephant snot I was gonna smear all over it.

*****....my nicknames takin off...for that stuff...rofl...

I'd suggest placing a nut over it and attempting to WELD the bit to the nut and try to get it out that way...

Or drill it out...and ya...what a PITA that is...

I'd really be doing what ever I could to get that out...

JM2CW

Al

 

[junk]

If you have access to a welder I would try the weld a nut on it first trick. I have better luck with that.

Easy-Out What a crappy name. Should be the "oh crap now it's broke in the drilled hole also tool"

 

[riotwarrior]

There is one other option that's quite qood too...but a beaitch...

HEAT around that stub good n hot..ya...HOT red hot...take a candle n press on stub...melts wax into threads...smokes like hell..

Heat again red hot around the stub...take hammer n chisel/punch and try to work it out...may take a few tries and BURNS...but this does work...

JM2CW

Al

 

[laserjock]

Easy-Out What a crappy name. Should be the "oh crap now it's broke in the drilled hole also tool"

Very accurate though.

I have had some success by cutting a slot in the top and using one of those hand impact driver do-dads with a straight blade bit. Sometimes the shock is helpful.

 

[riotwarrior]

Weld nut on....then hit with candle

Heat Orange/red around the sub/w Nut and then impact that off???

 

[79jasper]

No welder.
If enough was sticking out I would use visegrips or these http://www.amazon.com/Irwin-Industrial-394001-Bolt-Grip-Extractor/sim/B0000CCXVZ/2

 

[riotwarrior]

http://www.amazon.com/Alden-1007P-Piece-Master-Extractor/dp/B0002ESD80/ref=pd_sxp_grid_pt_2_2

 

[madpogue]

^^^^^ Or the wax/heat trick, along with cutting a slot in the shank with a Dremel or cutting wheel and turning with a screwdriver.

Those Irwin Bolt-Grip sockets, like the Craftsman Bolt-Outs and others, are for rounded-off heads. There's no head left here at all, and sure doesn't look like enough of the shank for any sort of socket to grip externally.

 

[icanfixall]

Remove the gear cover - water pump plate. Then heat it up.. Let it cool. Spary aerokroil or pb blster to cool it down. It will turn out by hand probably. Bottom tap the holes and use some anti sieze on the bolts. Whomever did the last water pump job sucks. No reason for crappy work like that.

 

[riotwarrior]

^^^^^ Or the wax/heat trick, along with cutting a slot in the shank with a Dremel or cutting wheel and turning with a screwdriver.

Those Irwin Bolt-Grip sockets, like the Craftsman Bolt-Outs and others, are for rounded-off heads. There's no head left here at all, and sure doesn't look like enough of the shank for any sort of socket to grip externally.

The external bolt grip easy off/out actually work on stubs such as those...if done right, I've done this on a few bolts having snaped heads off, I've gripped the bolt end and successfully a number of times removed the parts!

I swear by these products...

The drill/bolt combo ones that drill in then you turn the collet nut down into the hole work well too, I'm quite impressed over the old square tapered ****** out...that rarely if ever work...

Best bet...heat/candle....drill easy out when ready to start removing...HEAT red hot again around the stub...turn out part...

I kept some of the parts I removed with those external and internal easy outs...gave them to my TOOL guy at Canadian Tire to show prospective customers what you can do! He's used those parts a few times and people seem to be pleased.

Al

 

[79jasper]

I've used the Irwin sockets on lot's of broken bolts. It was the first thing I grabbed to try, but I need the second half of the set because the bolt is too small for my set. (Apparently it's sold as a partial set, then you have to buy the second set of sockets)

All I have is a plumbers torch to use for heat. Nobody I know has one to borrow. (Bunch of snobby ******)
What exactly does the candle wax do?

Gary the bolt is one going into the block. Did you mean it as it'll give a bit more stub to grab by removing the timing plate?

I would just go out and buy a real oxy/acetylene torch and the extractor set Al linked, but currently money doesn't allow. It's my brothers truck and he's not the type to buy occasional use tools.

If I pull the timing cover, I'll need a new gasket correct? Part number? Or can I just use that elephant snot?

 

[MUDKICKR]

use the candle wax method, it does work. been using that trick for at least 8 years and still cant believe it works. but if it was me i would drill out the center of the bolt first, then heat around it, then candle wax, then remove.

funny thing is today a tech at work broke a bolt off in the manifold of a 2007 HHR. i was asked to remove the broken bolt, and used the candle wax trick on it. works great 90% of the time. good thing today was within the 90%.