The above posting is not exactly true. Here is whats going on. If you have an E4OD trans you sometimes will have a heavy cast iron slywheel and a stamped steel flexplate as pictured above. You also could have the flexplate with the starter gear welded to it just like any C6 flexplate but. Your going to need a special 1.109 inch thick crank spacer. That spacer makes up the differance between the heavy cast iron flywheel type auto flexplate setups. None of those parts ar available any longer. I bought the last one Ford had after a nationwide search. Ended up not needing it too. Sometimes they come up on uhaul on ebay too. The heavy cast iron flywheel costs around $450.00 from Ford if... They still had any... They don't. Its now much better to convert to the simple stamped steel flexplate with the starter gear welded to it. BTS has them in stock usually too. They are only around $50.00 new compared to the other. The heaqvy flexplate setup requires three differant parts. The heavy cast iron flywheel. The thin stamped plate without the gear and the 4 inch washer that spreads out the clamping torque. If you convert from the heavy to the lite setup you will need the special washer or it wont work. BTS custom fabricates those too. Nobody sells them. I have two spares because I know they are valuable if you need one. Most late model idi engines will have this spacer and most of the time its nearly impossible to see it on the end of the crank. Many members have been fooled not knowing what they were looking at when they try to modify an auto trans engine to a standard trans engine. We get all kinds of "what the heck is going on with my crank" questions. A simple lite tap with a ball peen hammer knocks them off the crank end...