Russ
Idont do injectors
DONT KILL ME!!!
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trackspeeder
Stone crusher.
Diesel JD
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Ah man Andy! But I can't blame you for wanting the PSD and the manual tranny especially since this is a 7.3 PSD not a 6L. As far as your IDI if you sell it, sure depends a lot on if its rust free, and if that E4OD is in good shape. Anywhere from 2000-3500 in my area I'm pretty sure. It would be more expensive in some areas and much cheaper than that say in Oregon. Its highly localized market you know.
Andylad13
DieselBoy
yeah good point, i've got her advertized way high so when someone bids lower, i can accept it and make out better than listing her for 3500.
69oiler
I don't feel tardy
as i was pulling my camper home today with my PSD, i was thinking how well it towed and how i am happy with its power in stock form. i will tell you the auto trans sucks, and it takes more money than i am willing to part with to make it not suck, at least until it quits altogether. the 6 speed you are looking at solves that problem, though i don't know if they are necessarily bulletproof.
be advised than not only the PSD but the Superduty chassis in general requires operation/maintenance costs that dwarf that of the old IDI trucks or the OBS PSDs. they are nice trucks but you will pay... unitized wheel bearings that are not servicable as well as higher parts costs in general vs the older trucks.
mine has been running good for a few months now but i have thrown a few THOUSAND at it on top of the purchase price to get it to this point.
truthfully the majority of the complaints i have relate to the auto trans and not the PSD engine. i have had to replace the CPS and the glow plugs, and the water pump. other than that just oil changes, and the oil does not turn black in 5000 miles, you can still see the marks on the dipstick.
also, dont expect to feel the same grunt down low that you are used to with your IDI. the PSD relies much more on rpms and turbo boost and feels weak much below 1900 rpm.
just make sure you cant get the job done with the truck you have before you step into unknown territory. good luck
be advised than not only the PSD but the Superduty chassis in general requires operation/maintenance costs that dwarf that of the old IDI trucks or the OBS PSDs. they are nice trucks but you will pay... unitized wheel bearings that are not servicable as well as higher parts costs in general vs the older trucks.
mine has been running good for a few months now but i have thrown a few THOUSAND at it on top of the purchase price to get it to this point.
truthfully the majority of the complaints i have relate to the auto trans and not the PSD engine. i have had to replace the CPS and the glow plugs, and the water pump. other than that just oil changes, and the oil does not turn black in 5000 miles, you can still see the marks on the dipstick.
also, dont expect to feel the same grunt down low that you are used to with your IDI. the PSD relies much more on rpms and turbo boost and feels weak much below 1900 rpm.
just make sure you cant get the job done with the truck you have before you step into unknown territory. good luck
Cat_Rebel
Does not compute
Have you ever driven a PSD with a 4R100 & a shift kit/valvebody & a good converter? If the trans is healthy those 2 things alone will make it alot better to drive. I won't own another auto without a shift kit.
Optikalillushun
Registered User
those uni-bearings are awful expensive...even at our cost it was close to $700 for one side...where on our trucks we can do wheel bearings for around $50.
i thought about upgrading at one point but after driving a few SDs with gassers and one 6.0 i didnt care much for the lack of low end but does it boogy when the boost builds, heh. i havent driven a SD 7.3 but im sure its on par or a little better then a OBS 7.3.
i thought about upgrading at one point but after driving a few SDs with gassers and one 6.0 i didnt care much for the lack of low end but does it boogy when the boost builds, heh. i havent driven a SD 7.3 but im sure its on par or a little better then a OBS 7.3.
trackspeeder
Stone crusher.
69oiler
I don't feel tardy
i have to admit i have not, i have ridden in a 97 with the spring kit etc in the E40D and the owner is not happy with his trans either.
part of it is my own fault for opting to spend only 450 on a ferd TC instead of 1200 on an aftermarket one when i had my TC done and another part of it is when i tried to have a shift kit installed the mechanic couldn't get the kinks worked out and i ended up getting the truck back with a stock trans and a new stock TC. this was due the the TC rattle the early '99 TCs had.
i know if i threw another couple grand at the trans it might work better but i'm stubborn. 2 grand for a trans or 5k for an entire sweet IDI CC complete with a pile of spare parts and a turbo kit, what would you have done?
i have been babying my 4R100 for some time now, when it does crap out i will get a better trans built. i like the truck enough to keep it around and it's a great work truck. the IDI works too in the summer months but it's more of a working toy than a work truck.
if it came down to it and i had to sell one i would have to think long and hard about it but i think i'd sell the SD and keep the IDI, even if i had to run it in the winter.
trackspeeder
Stone crusher.
Unit bearings average around $245. for Federal Mogul. $300. from Ford. I only had one fail at 96k.
69oiler
I don't feel tardy
as far as the unit bearings i have been through 3 of them in less than 50k miles. paid for 2 and got 1 under warranty. they still growl but as long as they're tight i'll live with it.
i had one fail bigtime where i could grab the whell and shake it over an inch. the other 2 i replaced before they got that bad.
i got my SD with 125k and it now has 171k.
i had one fail bigtime where i could grab the whell and shake it over an inch. the other 2 i replaced before they got that bad.
i got my SD with 125k and it now has 171k.
trackspeeder
Stone crusher.
Springs are only part of the deal. That will give you a little better feel. Toss a Trans Go Tugger kit or a Sonnax Sure Cure kit in it. Now you will have a nice tranny for a few bucks.
Cat_Rebel
Does not compute
Trans-go is the only way to fly. We put a Sonnax in my buddy's truck (early 99) & it's worked okay & he beats on it hard but I like the way the Trans-go shifts better. My Ma's 00 has over 200k on it with the stock tranny & stock T/C & is used as a daily driver. Shift kit & good T/C can hold around 325hp on a Powerstroke just fine unless you drive it like a complete idiot but that's another issue. 
BTW why is everyone talking about unit berrings & cost when the guy is looking at a 2wd Superduty that doesn't even have unit berrings? Same goes for the tranny since it was a ZF-6 manual.
BTW why is everyone talking about unit berrings & cost when the guy is looking at a 2wd Superduty that doesn't even have unit berrings? Same goes for the tranny since it was a ZF-6 manual.
Andylad13
DieselBoy
well its good to know either way
oiler, thanks a lot for your input and prices. i do absolutly love my idi, and with new starter and 3rd battery (optima) hooked up under the hood on a switch, i know im going to get through the winter no problem. im going for a complete winter with out pluggin her in!
you guys are great, all these posts and information about my choice in the idi side, and i hardly got any in the PSD forum here.
due to my boss being a complete non-understanding ass, i quit my job yesterday from carpentry. so needless to say if i dont get more than what the truck is selling for for my truck, i wont even go down there and look at it again. i dont want to get my hopes up too much. anyways, time to go warehouse working again and do my time in ot, and make some actual money in hopes that i can keep both trucks??????
69oiler
I don't feel tardy
didn't realize the 2wd didn't have unit bearings but a check in my Haynes manual confirms it.
as posted above i realize the truck he's looking at is a 6 speed, which is why i said most of the problem i have had related to the auto trans, so he should have better luck with the 6 speed. clear as mud?
higher parts costs are a given on the PSD vs the IDI. anyone can do a search and find that out.
as posted above i realize the truck he's looking at is a 6 speed, which is why i said most of the problem i have had related to the auto trans, so he should have better luck with the 6 speed. clear as mud?
higher parts costs are a given on the PSD vs the IDI. anyone can do a search and find that out.
