My truck was last driven a week ago (not by me). I started it today and let it idle for a few minutes. Then my brother drove it six miles. It smoked from startup until he got it back home again. It stopped smoking when he got it back in the yard idling again. I don't remember it doing this before. Any ideas on why, and what if any damage I'm doing?
Blue smoke and oil smell on start-up
- Thread starter killer
- Start date
That was a couple hours ago. I just went out and started it again and there was no smoke or smell.
Other information:
- Oil pressure is normal at idle and highway speed
- Oil level is full, not overfull, and looks and smells like oil (not diesel)
- Edge is set on 1, low boost fueling on 5
- Truck has 45000km.
Other information:
- Oil pressure is normal at idle and highway speed
- Oil level is full, not overfull, and looks and smells like oil (not diesel)
- Edge is set on 1, low boost fueling on 5
- Truck has 45000km.
I have heard that there are 2 fairly common issues with the 3rd gen Dodges:
- injector problems
- valve guide issues
I would "guess" that you may have an issue with a valve guide. Unfortunately, I don't know how to check for this.
As you are probably aware, blue smoke is oil.
HTH
George
- injector problems
- valve guide issues
I would "guess" that you may have an issue with a valve guide. Unfortunately, I don't know how to check for this.
As you are probably aware, blue smoke is oil.
HTH
George
killer said:
Killer,
I have a similar problem with my 600, and have since day one. If the weather is cool, below about 50°f. It normally takes a while before it runs smooth and stops smoking. I've had it into the shop and basically they said.. "that's normal".. they did the tsb on it but nothing changed.
Searches on this site and others like DTR, turned up not much but that's normal replies. It's kind of strange that it just started happening though..
I'd probably be inclinded to pull any after market stuff like the edge, if it keeps it up. But I don't know.. maybe someone with more knowledge could chime in.
It does seem like the dealers aren't too helpfull unless its throwing codes or lifeless.
on edit.
I probably wouldn't care much about it but I don't have the problem at all with the 03' SO. It cranks.. no smoke and runs smooth.. so I don't think its normal for the 600. I think its probably an injector.. but that's a guess.
I probably wouldn't care much about it but I don't have the problem at all with the 03' SO. It cranks.. no smoke and runs smooth.. so I don't think its normal for the 600. I think its probably an injector.. but that's a guess.
95_stroker said:Killer,
I would keep a very close eye on oil level, checking for any unusual consumption. Have you been experiencing any oil consumption since new?
btw Rick, I knew you could pitch in around here.
No, it's been good so far. I last changed the oil 700km ago. That was probably 5-6 weeks ago now. I think it was fine then, but I don't remember with absolute certainty. I haven't noticed any changes in the truck except for the smoke and smell yesterday. It didn't do it today. Tomorrow will be a 300km trip, so if it makes it through that I'll feel better about it.
The CEL hasn't come on, but it can throw codes and not set that light off, right? Can someone other than the dealer look at it? One, I don't want to drive the two hours to the dealer I bought it from if I don't have to, and two, I don't want to have to pull the Edge off because I'd have to remount the Attitude. And I'd have to find someone with a stock fuse panel cover so I don't have to peel the velcro off that too.
I'm not sure about 06 models but on my 4.5, you can also get your Instrument Codes by having the key OFF, push and HOLD the trip button, turn the key to the ON position. Cluster should take off moving everything around, when it comes back to normal it will read codes if it has any.
The above is the Instrument Cluster Test which is different then the ECM check. Maybe we can get an accurate procedure and list for each model year. Mine's not showing any codes using the Key on/off test... it just says "done".
The P codes or ECM trouble codes are done with the key off to on three times without starting. The trouble codes will display one at a time on the OD display followed by "done".
.
P0016 Crankshaft/Camshaft Timing Misalignment/Out-of-Sync
P0071 Ambient Temperature Sensor Performance / Rationality
P0072 Ambient Temperature Sensor Low
P0073 Ambient Temperature Sensor High
P0088 Fuel Rail Pressure Too High
P0106 Manifold Absolute Pressure Sensor Performance / Rationality
P0107 Manifold Absolute Pressure Sensor Low
P0108 Manifold Absolute Pressure Sensor High
P0111 Intake Air / Charge Temperature Sensor Performance / Rationality
P0112 Intake Air / Charge Temperature Sensor Low
P0113 Intake Air / Charge Temperature Sensor High
P0116 Engine Coolant Temperature Sensor Performance / Rationality
P0117 Engine Coolant Temperature Sensor Low
P0118 Engine Coolant Temperature Sensor High
P0128 Cooling System Error / Thermostat Rationality
P0148 Fuel Delivery Error
P0169 Water-in-Fuel Detected For Too Long
P0192 Fuel Rail Pressure Sensor Low
P0193 Fuel Rail Pressure Sensor High
P0201 Fuel Injector 1 Circuit
P0202 Fuel Injector 2 Circuit
P0203 Fuel Injector 3 Circuit
P0204 Fuel Injector 4 Circuit
P0205 Fuel Injector 5 Circuit
P0206 Fuel Injector 6 Circuit
P0217 Coolant Temperature Too High
P0219 Engine Overspeed
P0234 Turbocharger Overboost Condition
P0236 Turbocharger Boost Pressure Sensor Performance / Rationality
P0237 Turbocharger Boost Pressure Sensor Low
P0238 Turbocharger Boost Pressure Sensor High
P0251 Injection Pump Fuel Valve Feedback
P0300 Multiple Cylinder Misfire
P0301 Cylinder 1 Misfire
P0302 Cylinder 2 Misfire
P0303 Cylinder 3 Misfire
P0304 Cylinder 4 Misfire
P0305 Cylinder 5 Misfire
P0306 Cylinder 6 Misfire
P0335 Crankshaft Position Sensor Circuit
P0336 Crankshaft Position Sensor Performance
P0337 Crankshaft Position Sensor Circuit Low
P0338 Crankshaft Position Sensor Circuit High
P0340 Camshaft Position Sensor Circuit
P0341 Camshaft Position Sensor Performance / Rationality
P0381 Wait-to-Start Lamp Inoperative
P0461 Fuel Level Sensor 1 Performance / Rationality
P0462 Fuel Level Sensor 1 Low
P0463 Fuel Level Sensor 1 High
P0477 Exhaust Pressure Control Relay Low
P0478 Exhaust Pressure Control Relay High
P0480 Cooling Fan 1 Control Circuit/Open (Low Speed Fan Relay)
P0483 Cooling Fan Speed
P0500 Vehicle Speed Sensor 1 Circuit, or No Vehicle Speed Reference Signal 1
P0514 Battery Temperature Sensor Performance / Rationality
P0516 Battery Temperature Sensor Low
P0517 Battery Temperature Sensor High
P0521 Oil Pressure Sensor Performance / Rationality
P0524 Oil Pressure Too Low
P0532 A/C Pressure Sensor Low
P0533 A/C Pressure Sensor High
P0541 Intake Air Heater Relay 1 Low
P0542 Intake Air Heater Relay 1 High
P0562 Battery Voltage Low
P0563 Battery Voltage High
P0572 Brake Switch 1 Low
P0573 Brake Switch 1 High
P0580 Speed Control Multiplexed Switch 1 Low
P0581 Speed Control Multiplexed Switch 1 High
P0602 Control Module Programming Error/NotProgrammed
P0604 Internal Control Module RAM Integrity Failure
P0606 Internal ECM Processor
P0607 ECU Internal Performance
P0622 Generator Field Control Circuit
P0628 Fuel Pump Relay Circuit Low, or Fuel Lift Pump Control Circuit Low
P0629 Fuel Pump Relay Circuit High, or Fuel Lift Pump Control Circuit High
P0630 VIN Not Programmed in PCM
P0633 SKIM Key Not Programmed in PCM
P0642 Sensor Reference Voltage 1 Circuit Low
P0643 Sensor Reference Voltage 1 Circuit High
P0646 A/C Clutch Relay Circuit Low
P0647 A/C Clutch Relay Circuit High
P0652 Sensor Reference Voltage 2 Circuit Low
P0653 Sensor Reference Voltage 2 Circuit High
P0698 Sensor Reference Voltage 3 Circuit Low
P0699 Sensor Reference Voltage 3 Circuit High
P0700 Transmission Control System (MIL Request)
P0837 Four Wheel Drive (4WD) Switch Performance / Rationality
P0838 Four Wheel Drive (4WD) Switch Circuit Low
P0839 Four Wheel Drive (4WD) Switch Circuit High
P1652 J1850 Communication Bus
P2121 Pedal Position Sensor 1 Performance / Rationality
P2122 Pedal Position Sensor 1 Low
P2123 Pedal Position Sensor 1 High
P2127 Pedal Validation Switch 2 Low
P2128 Pedal Validation Switch 2 High
P2146 Fuel Injector Group 1 Supply Voltage Circuit
P2149 Fuel Injector Group 2 Supply Voltage Circuit
P2266 Water in Fuel Sensor Circuit Low
P2269 Water in Fuel Condition
P2502 Charging System Output Voltage
P2503 Charging System Output Low
P2504 Charging System Output High
P2509 ECM/PCM Power Input Signal Intermittent
P2607 Intake Air Heater Relay 2 Low
P2608 Intake Air Heater Relay 2 High
P2609 Intake Air Heater System Performance
Instrument Cluster Test from above...
01 Airbag warning indicator output circuit shorted. Refer to the appropriate diagnostic information.
02 Airbag warning indicator output circuit open. Refer to the appropriate diagnostic information.
03 ABS indicator output circuit shorted. Refer to the appropriate diagnostic information.
04 ABS indicator output circuit open. Refer to the appropriate diagnostic information.
05 MIL indicator output circuit shorted. Refer to the appropriate diagnostic information.
06 MIL indicator output circuit open. Refer to the appropriate diagnostic information.
07 Wait to start indicator circuit shorted. Refer to the appropriate diagnostic information.
08 Wait to start indicator circuit open. Refer to the appropriate diagnostic information.
0B BTSI output circuit shorted or open. Refer to the appropriate diagnostic information.
22 Headlamp switch input circuit shorted. Refer to the appropriate diagnostic information.
23 Headlamp switch input circuit open. Refer to the appropriate diagnostic information.
24 Turn hazard switch input circuit shorted. Refer to the appropriate diagnostic information.
25 Turn hazard swiitch inpot circuit open. Refer to the appropriate diagnostic information.
27 Courtesy/dome output circuit shorted or open. Refer to the appropriate diagnostic information.
28 Glovebox/map lamp output circuit shorted or
open.
Refer to the appropriate diagnostic information.
29 Cargo lamp output circuit shorted or open. Refer to the appropriate diagnostic information.
40 Wiper switch input circuit shorted. Refer to the appropriate diagnostic information.
41 Wiper switch input circuit open. Refer to the appropriate diagnostic information.
42 Wash/beam input circuit shorted. Refer to the appropriate diagnostic information.
60 Passenger door lock switch input circuit
shorted.
Refer to the appropriate diagnostic information.
61 Passenger door lock switch input circuit open. Refer to the appropriate diagnostic information.
62 Passenger door lock switch input circuit stuck. Refer to the appropriate diagnostic information.
63 Driver door lock switch input circuit shorted. Refer to the appropriate diagnostic information.
64 Driver door lock switch input circuit open. Refer to the appropriate diagnostic information.
65 Driver door lock switch input circuit stuck. Refer to the appropriate diagnostic information.
66 All door lock output circuit shorted to ground
or voltage.
Refer to the appropriate diagnostic information.
67 All door unlock output circuit shorted to
ground or voltage.
Refer to the appropriate diagnostic information.
68 Driver door unlock output circuit shorted to
ground or voltage.
Refer to the appropriate diagnostic information.
6C Driver cylinder lock switch input circuit
shorted.
Refer to the appropriate diagnostic information.
6E Driver cylinder lock switch input circuit stuck. Refer to the appropriate diagnostic information.
80 Incorrect odometer value found. Refer to the appropriate diagnostic information.
81 Remote radio switch input circuit high. Refer to the appropriate diagnostic information.
82 Remote radio switch stuck. Refer to the appropriate diagnostic information.
A0 Internal module FLASH memory checksum
failure.
Refer to the appropriate diagnostic information.
A1 Internal module bootloader failure. Refer to the appropriate diagnostic information.
A3 Battery voltage open. Refer to the appropriate diagnostic information.
A5 TCCM messages not received. Refer to the appropriate diagnostic information.
A7 VIN checksum error. Refer to the appropriate diagnostic information.
A8 VIN previously stored. Refer to the appropriate diagnostic information.
A9 PCI bus internal failure. Refer to the appropriate diagnostic information.
AA PCM messages not received. Refer to the appropriate diagnostic information.
AB TCM messages not received. Refer to the appropriate diagnostic information.
AC ABS messages not received. Refer to the appropriate diagnostic information.
AD FCM messages not received. Refer to the appropriate diagnostic information.
AE ACM messages not received. Refer to the appropriate diagnostic information.
AF SKIM messages not received. Refer to the appropriate diagnostic information.
B0 RKE fob batteries low. Refer to the appropriate diagnostic information.
B1 RKE module communication link. Refer to the appropriate diagnostic information.
00 Done All Diagnostic Trouble Codes (DTC) have been
The P codes or ECM trouble codes are done with the key off to on three times without starting. The trouble codes will display one at a time on the OD display followed by "done".
.
P0016 Crankshaft/Camshaft Timing Misalignment/Out-of-Sync
P0071 Ambient Temperature Sensor Performance / Rationality
P0072 Ambient Temperature Sensor Low
P0073 Ambient Temperature Sensor High
P0088 Fuel Rail Pressure Too High
P0106 Manifold Absolute Pressure Sensor Performance / Rationality
P0107 Manifold Absolute Pressure Sensor Low
P0108 Manifold Absolute Pressure Sensor High
P0111 Intake Air / Charge Temperature Sensor Performance / Rationality
P0112 Intake Air / Charge Temperature Sensor Low
P0113 Intake Air / Charge Temperature Sensor High
P0116 Engine Coolant Temperature Sensor Performance / Rationality
P0117 Engine Coolant Temperature Sensor Low
P0118 Engine Coolant Temperature Sensor High
P0128 Cooling System Error / Thermostat Rationality
P0148 Fuel Delivery Error
P0169 Water-in-Fuel Detected For Too Long
P0192 Fuel Rail Pressure Sensor Low
P0193 Fuel Rail Pressure Sensor High
P0201 Fuel Injector 1 Circuit
P0202 Fuel Injector 2 Circuit
P0203 Fuel Injector 3 Circuit
P0204 Fuel Injector 4 Circuit
P0205 Fuel Injector 5 Circuit
P0206 Fuel Injector 6 Circuit
P0217 Coolant Temperature Too High
P0219 Engine Overspeed
P0234 Turbocharger Overboost Condition
P0236 Turbocharger Boost Pressure Sensor Performance / Rationality
P0237 Turbocharger Boost Pressure Sensor Low
P0238 Turbocharger Boost Pressure Sensor High
P0251 Injection Pump Fuel Valve Feedback
P0300 Multiple Cylinder Misfire
P0301 Cylinder 1 Misfire
P0302 Cylinder 2 Misfire
P0303 Cylinder 3 Misfire
P0304 Cylinder 4 Misfire
P0305 Cylinder 5 Misfire
P0306 Cylinder 6 Misfire
P0335 Crankshaft Position Sensor Circuit
P0336 Crankshaft Position Sensor Performance
P0337 Crankshaft Position Sensor Circuit Low
P0338 Crankshaft Position Sensor Circuit High
P0340 Camshaft Position Sensor Circuit
P0341 Camshaft Position Sensor Performance / Rationality
P0381 Wait-to-Start Lamp Inoperative
P0461 Fuel Level Sensor 1 Performance / Rationality
P0462 Fuel Level Sensor 1 Low
P0463 Fuel Level Sensor 1 High
P0477 Exhaust Pressure Control Relay Low
P0478 Exhaust Pressure Control Relay High
P0480 Cooling Fan 1 Control Circuit/Open (Low Speed Fan Relay)
P0483 Cooling Fan Speed
P0500 Vehicle Speed Sensor 1 Circuit, or No Vehicle Speed Reference Signal 1
P0514 Battery Temperature Sensor Performance / Rationality
P0516 Battery Temperature Sensor Low
P0517 Battery Temperature Sensor High
P0521 Oil Pressure Sensor Performance / Rationality
P0524 Oil Pressure Too Low
P0532 A/C Pressure Sensor Low
P0533 A/C Pressure Sensor High
P0541 Intake Air Heater Relay 1 Low
P0542 Intake Air Heater Relay 1 High
P0562 Battery Voltage Low
P0563 Battery Voltage High
P0572 Brake Switch 1 Low
P0573 Brake Switch 1 High
P0580 Speed Control Multiplexed Switch 1 Low
P0581 Speed Control Multiplexed Switch 1 High
P0602 Control Module Programming Error/NotProgrammed
P0604 Internal Control Module RAM Integrity Failure
P0606 Internal ECM Processor
P0607 ECU Internal Performance
P0622 Generator Field Control Circuit
P0628 Fuel Pump Relay Circuit Low, or Fuel Lift Pump Control Circuit Low
P0629 Fuel Pump Relay Circuit High, or Fuel Lift Pump Control Circuit High
P0630 VIN Not Programmed in PCM
P0633 SKIM Key Not Programmed in PCM
P0642 Sensor Reference Voltage 1 Circuit Low
P0643 Sensor Reference Voltage 1 Circuit High
P0646 A/C Clutch Relay Circuit Low
P0647 A/C Clutch Relay Circuit High
P0652 Sensor Reference Voltage 2 Circuit Low
P0653 Sensor Reference Voltage 2 Circuit High
P0698 Sensor Reference Voltage 3 Circuit Low
P0699 Sensor Reference Voltage 3 Circuit High
P0700 Transmission Control System (MIL Request)
P0837 Four Wheel Drive (4WD) Switch Performance / Rationality
P0838 Four Wheel Drive (4WD) Switch Circuit Low
P0839 Four Wheel Drive (4WD) Switch Circuit High
P1652 J1850 Communication Bus
P2121 Pedal Position Sensor 1 Performance / Rationality
P2122 Pedal Position Sensor 1 Low
P2123 Pedal Position Sensor 1 High
P2127 Pedal Validation Switch 2 Low
P2128 Pedal Validation Switch 2 High
P2146 Fuel Injector Group 1 Supply Voltage Circuit
P2149 Fuel Injector Group 2 Supply Voltage Circuit
P2266 Water in Fuel Sensor Circuit Low
P2269 Water in Fuel Condition
P2502 Charging System Output Voltage
P2503 Charging System Output Low
P2504 Charging System Output High
P2509 ECM/PCM Power Input Signal Intermittent
P2607 Intake Air Heater Relay 2 Low
P2608 Intake Air Heater Relay 2 High
P2609 Intake Air Heater System Performance
Instrument Cluster Test from above...
01 Airbag warning indicator output circuit shorted. Refer to the appropriate diagnostic information.
02 Airbag warning indicator output circuit open. Refer to the appropriate diagnostic information.
03 ABS indicator output circuit shorted. Refer to the appropriate diagnostic information.
04 ABS indicator output circuit open. Refer to the appropriate diagnostic information.
05 MIL indicator output circuit shorted. Refer to the appropriate diagnostic information.
06 MIL indicator output circuit open. Refer to the appropriate diagnostic information.
07 Wait to start indicator circuit shorted. Refer to the appropriate diagnostic information.
08 Wait to start indicator circuit open. Refer to the appropriate diagnostic information.
0B BTSI output circuit shorted or open. Refer to the appropriate diagnostic information.
22 Headlamp switch input circuit shorted. Refer to the appropriate diagnostic information.
23 Headlamp switch input circuit open. Refer to the appropriate diagnostic information.
24 Turn hazard switch input circuit shorted. Refer to the appropriate diagnostic information.
25 Turn hazard swiitch inpot circuit open. Refer to the appropriate diagnostic information.
27 Courtesy/dome output circuit shorted or open. Refer to the appropriate diagnostic information.
28 Glovebox/map lamp output circuit shorted or
open.
Refer to the appropriate diagnostic information.
29 Cargo lamp output circuit shorted or open. Refer to the appropriate diagnostic information.
40 Wiper switch input circuit shorted. Refer to the appropriate diagnostic information.
41 Wiper switch input circuit open. Refer to the appropriate diagnostic information.
42 Wash/beam input circuit shorted. Refer to the appropriate diagnostic information.
60 Passenger door lock switch input circuit
shorted.
Refer to the appropriate diagnostic information.
61 Passenger door lock switch input circuit open. Refer to the appropriate diagnostic information.
62 Passenger door lock switch input circuit stuck. Refer to the appropriate diagnostic information.
63 Driver door lock switch input circuit shorted. Refer to the appropriate diagnostic information.
64 Driver door lock switch input circuit open. Refer to the appropriate diagnostic information.
65 Driver door lock switch input circuit stuck. Refer to the appropriate diagnostic information.
66 All door lock output circuit shorted to ground
or voltage.
Refer to the appropriate diagnostic information.
67 All door unlock output circuit shorted to
ground or voltage.
Refer to the appropriate diagnostic information.
68 Driver door unlock output circuit shorted to
ground or voltage.
Refer to the appropriate diagnostic information.
6C Driver cylinder lock switch input circuit
shorted.
Refer to the appropriate diagnostic information.
6E Driver cylinder lock switch input circuit stuck. Refer to the appropriate diagnostic information.
80 Incorrect odometer value found. Refer to the appropriate diagnostic information.
81 Remote radio switch input circuit high. Refer to the appropriate diagnostic information.
82 Remote radio switch stuck. Refer to the appropriate diagnostic information.
A0 Internal module FLASH memory checksum
failure.
Refer to the appropriate diagnostic information.
A1 Internal module bootloader failure. Refer to the appropriate diagnostic information.
A3 Battery voltage open. Refer to the appropriate diagnostic information.
A5 TCCM messages not received. Refer to the appropriate diagnostic information.
A7 VIN checksum error. Refer to the appropriate diagnostic information.
A8 VIN previously stored. Refer to the appropriate diagnostic information.
A9 PCI bus internal failure. Refer to the appropriate diagnostic information.
AA PCM messages not received. Refer to the appropriate diagnostic information.
AB TCM messages not received. Refer to the appropriate diagnostic information.
AC ABS messages not received. Refer to the appropriate diagnostic information.
AD FCM messages not received. Refer to the appropriate diagnostic information.
AE ACM messages not received. Refer to the appropriate diagnostic information.
AF SKIM messages not received. Refer to the appropriate diagnostic information.
B0 RKE fob batteries low. Refer to the appropriate diagnostic information.
B1 RKE module communication link. Refer to the appropriate diagnostic information.
00 Done All Diagnostic Trouble Codes (DTC) have been
my guess would be a bad injector o-ring or cracked injector...both VERY common problems on the 600's.
and to say the dealers arent much help unless its throwing codes or lifeless is well, ungrateful. i worked for a chrysler dealer for a while...even though we didnt always find a problem...we looked. problem isnt the mechanics at the dealer. those guys would LOVE to spend all the time it took to figure out whats wrong. the problem is chryslers warranty pay. if we find nothing...we get 0 dollars....if it takes us 4 hours to track down a problem...we get whatever the pathetic time chrysler pays and 1.4 of the time spent on the vehicle. dont blame the mechanics...blame chryslers tight ass. if we got paid for hours on end to diagnose a problem...we would. but we have families to feed just like everyone else...and nobody works for free. i can tell you this much though. the techs look at the most common problems relating to a customer concern...if theirs nothing to be found...and no codes, your kind of stuck. to do the test for the cracked/leaking injector, you have to cap off each injector..1 at a time, and run the truck..see if it duplicates or erradicates the concern..each injector capping takes about .5 with an initial .8 to access the injectors and get all the special tools lined out and installed. thats 3.8hours...guess how much chrysler pays a tech to do this particular test......1.5 hours. and if the test finds nothing wrong..we get paid nothing. with that said
i say either cracked injector
leaking injector o-ring...or worse case scenario....stuck/fried rings. seen it more than a few times with plug-in performance enhancers on the 600 cummins.
and to say the dealers arent much help unless its throwing codes or lifeless is well, ungrateful. i worked for a chrysler dealer for a while...even though we didnt always find a problem...we looked. problem isnt the mechanics at the dealer. those guys would LOVE to spend all the time it took to figure out whats wrong. the problem is chryslers warranty pay. if we find nothing...we get 0 dollars....if it takes us 4 hours to track down a problem...we get whatever the pathetic time chrysler pays and 1.4 of the time spent on the vehicle. dont blame the mechanics...blame chryslers tight ass. if we got paid for hours on end to diagnose a problem...we would. but we have families to feed just like everyone else...and nobody works for free. i can tell you this much though. the techs look at the most common problems relating to a customer concern...if theirs nothing to be found...and no codes, your kind of stuck. to do the test for the cracked/leaking injector, you have to cap off each injector..1 at a time, and run the truck..see if it duplicates or erradicates the concern..each injector capping takes about .5 with an initial .8 to access the injectors and get all the special tools lined out and installed. thats 3.8hours...guess how much chrysler pays a tech to do this particular test......1.5 hours. and if the test finds nothing wrong..we get paid nothing. with that said
i say either cracked injector
leaking injector o-ring...or worse case scenario....stuck/fried rings. seen it more than a few times with plug-in performance enhancers on the 600 cummins.
I got "Done" on the key on/key off one. On the other one (hold trip button and turn key on) it flashed "C Code" and then "00 00". I don't think it said "Done", I think it just flashed back to the odometer.
I still haven't noticed a gain or loss on the dipstick. But I do now think I haven't been paying close enough attention to the tailpipe. I thought it had quit smoking, but I started the truck while standing outside it today and it smoked for maybe 15 seconds. I bet it's been doing it the whole time since the first time and I just haven't seen it.
Holtzer, if it's bad rings or an injector, what do I need to watch for? I know it's not going to heal itself, so how do I know if it's getting worse, and how soon I need to do something about it? Am I looking at something major, or something minor like a bit of a loss in power or mileage?
I still haven't noticed a gain or loss on the dipstick. But I do now think I haven't been paying close enough attention to the tailpipe. I thought it had quit smoking, but I started the truck while standing outside it today and it smoked for maybe 15 seconds. I bet it's been doing it the whole time since the first time and I just haven't seen it.
Holtzer, if it's bad rings or an injector, what do I need to watch for? I know it's not going to heal itself, so how do I know if it's getting worse, and how soon I need to do something about it? Am I looking at something major, or something minor like a bit of a loss in power or mileage?
whats the mileage on the truck?
things to watch for.....
oooh, i just thought of something...i have replaced quite a few turbos on the new trucks....check your turbo whel for any excessive play. you could have a bad seal in the turbo, that only leaks over night...dripping just enough oil into the turbo to cause it to smoke. thats one scenario thats very possible.
otherwise, keep a close eye on the oil...if it starts to smell of fuel, you have a injector or ring problem. the biggest problem with cummins is they are loud...so, listening for "odd" noises such as spark knock from too much fuel or washed rings is useless. i would keep an eye on the oil, check the turbo for any signs of oil internally...other than that..run the hell out of it, if its still under warranty, let er eat.
things to watch for.....
oooh, i just thought of something...i have replaced quite a few turbos on the new trucks....check your turbo whel for any excessive play. you could have a bad seal in the turbo, that only leaks over night...dripping just enough oil into the turbo to cause it to smoke. thats one scenario thats very possible.
otherwise, keep a close eye on the oil...if it starts to smell of fuel, you have a injector or ring problem. the biggest problem with cummins is they are loud...so, listening for "odd" noises such as spark knock from too much fuel or washed rings is useless. i would keep an eye on the oil, check the turbo for any signs of oil internally...other than that..run the hell out of it, if its still under warranty, let er eat.
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