Ats,banks vs factory turbo

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They are all pretty much the same. Biggest difference is wastegated vs non gated, just get the one that is in the best shape for the least $
 

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The ats kit has less restriction than the factory ford, small difference and russ can fix it.
+1 on gated or non.
My non gated banks seemed better suited to pulling as it never quit building boost but egts were the deciding factor... and the o93 gated comes on quicker bombing around, hit the gate and its all over.
Just my .02
 

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Is non gated the best way to go? I need more pulling power it feels like I dropped anchor when I pull a trailer lol
 

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Not specifically..
There are several consideration's to take into acct.
Honestley hit the turbo threads and read up.
It will be the best bang for the buck...
There is some speculation about power output,boost,timing, and a few other things.
Looking for as complete a setup as possible is #1...
Egt's and fuel input, condition of fuel system parts.
All are issues to low power
But do fill in your sig line with as much truck stats as possible so we can see what you have to work with.

As we cannot discern tween a brown truck and a tan one...:)
 

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What I like about the banks wastegated kits is that,the kit as a whole is very high quality.Everything is designed solid with great fitment.No slip fittings to loosen,no turbo blocking access to engine parts,like glow plugs.No crushed downpipes and as far as I know,no obsolete parts.Just call up banks and get the part you need.
Performance off the line feels just the same as N/A in that there is no lag at all.When the truck sees a load,boost comes on strong as needed and it totally transforms the truck.When towing as N/A you would need to downshift and put it to the floor.With the banks,low downshifting became a thing of the past with just the truck dropping out of OD and pulling about any grade in direct drive,save for starting out on hills and when towing very heavy but even at or over max gross by a couple ton,generally still able to maintain most posted speed limits.If not,it's usually not but just a few seconds to reach it again.What more could you want?

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T\hit the gate and its all over.
There's a very simple fix for that... Just unplug the hose!

I've done that to both my ford factory turbo and Banks sidewinder/TE06H turbos. They run quite nicely.

'Course, maxing out the fuel also helps a lot when it comes to making an IDI /go/. Just be aware of smoke and watch your EGTs.

I'd say that the Banks turbo is slightly smaller than the Ford Factory turbo, it can spool slightly quicker... Piping is probably easier too.

Nothing wrong with the ford factory turbo though; I still pushed 250RWHP through it, same as the Banks.
 

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Unplugging the hose doesn't disable the WG, it just keeps,the boost pressure from helping the exhaust pressure to overcome the spring.
It effectively disables it. At least on the banks, the diameter of the wastegate is pretty small(3/4" or so?), so even 40 psi of backpressure would only exert 17.5 pounds of force against it.
Yes, I know that in theory it might open, but I haven't seen it. I took a piece of (weak)aluminum wire and put it around the wastegate such that if it opened, the wire would stretch and I'd see it. So far, nothing.

Not sure the diameter on the ford, but again, I haven't been able to make it open disconnected. And I do kind of push the truck...
 

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Just saw this on Facebook, it's in his bronco and boost over 60psi, yet so many questions left unanswered still lol
 

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There's a very simple fix for that... Just unplug the hose!

I've done that to both my ford factory turbo and Banks sidewinder/TE06H turbos. They run quite nicely.

'Course, maxing out the fuel also helps a lot when it comes to making an IDI /go/. Just be aware of smoke and watch your EGTs.

I'd say that the Banks turbo is slightly smaller than the Ford Factory turbo, it can spool slightly quicker... Piping is probably easier too.

Nothing wrong with the ford factory turbo though; I still pushed 250RWHP through it, same as the Banks.



The banks is almost the same turbine size as factory, bigger if anything, the comp is quite a bit bigger.
My mods to factory style will surpass a banks, and parts are easily available.
A non gated turbo is great for automatic trucks and with a wheel mod they really wake up.
AND any turbo is better than none.
 

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Just saw this on Facebook, it's in his bronco and boost over 60psi, yet so many questions left unanswered still lol

I'd like to have a nickle for every dollar that guy spends on IDI's.:D He's got no intercooler setup on that one,I wonder cus he figures it doesn't need it or just no room to plumb it.The size of that thing is insane.That looks ridiculously fun.
 

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