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Its always been that way. I thought you were saying you needed a cdl to drive the vehicle
Without a trailer.

FWIW........ I think anybody pulling a trailer or driving an RV should atleast have an endorsment that requires a skills test.
 

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FWIW........ I think anybody pulling a trailer or driving an RV should atleast have an endorsment that requires a skills test.

I absolutely agree. It is scary seeing some 70 year old grandpa behind the wheel of his dually pickup with a tri axle 36' trailer having no clue what is going on around him
 

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Its always been that way. I thought you were saying you needed a cdl to drive the vehicle
Without a trailer.

FWIW........ I think anybody pulling a trailer or driving an RV should atleast have an endorsment that requires a skills test.

Is what your saying or telling me is that I don't know how to drive since I turned 83 in Oct. Yeah I know there are some Old Folks out there driving big RV's, but most drive with caution within the speed limit, it's mostly the young guys that get impatient cause they can't go 80+ MPH.

My driving skills have not changed since I drove stock cars. Absolutely NO accidents in 60 years, well maybe a few on the track.

Just don't group all us Old ******** together. Yeah, I drive an RV Motorhome, pull 25' GN, 18' cargo trailer, 2 place snowmobile trl. with the Arctic Cat's EFI 580 and a fast ZRT 800 at 95 MPH, can't wait for some snow. I can stand her on her tail for 200 feet.
 

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I absolutely agree. It is scary seeing some 70 year old grandpa behind the wheel of his dually pickup with a tri axle 36' trailer having no clue what is going on around him

Or driving a half a million dollar diesel pusher Class A "bus" on a car license. Most do ok.... but having it registered as an RV negates alot of the rules that any other vehicle would need a special endoecement or a CDL.....

Best example..... to steal a line from the movie RV, in the extra's. In the interviews you find out that Jeff Danials is an RV'er.... and he said the RV'ers will understand this..

"My RV goes psssssssssssss......."

Any other vehicle would have to have a CDL with air brake endorsement.... and RV... nope.....
 

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You are correct. If you get diesel power MAG, this past month had one of the writers get his CDL to do the "king of the hill" LEGALLY. The "tow vehicle" the ANYTHING that is doing the towing(pickup, car, medium duty truck, bug truck, tow truck).

And you DO Not need a CDL unless the "tow vehicle" is registered over 26,000lbs OR the load being towed is registered over 10,000.

In English.

Your pickup weighs 7,000lbs(registerd for 18,000) and you are towing another pickup(7,000) on a 4,ooolb trailer(registered for 12,000). You weigh in at ONLY 18,000. But YOU NEED A CLASS A because the trailer is over the 10,000 mark. Just ask any HOT SHOT car hauler. 90% of them are under 26,000 and they all have class A license

You DO NOT NEED a CLASS B to just drive the truck because it is NOT registered over 26,000.

BUT if you do REGISTER it over 26,000 you DO NEED a CLASS B to just drive the truck.

A truck that is registered for over 26000 you need a Class B license. And you can tow a trailer(under 10,000lbs) with just a B license. If you tow a trailer over 10000, you need an A


interesting.thanks for the info.
a quick google also yields the source of your info;
http://www.fmcsa.dot.gov/registration-licensing/cdl/cdl.htm

i see what you guys are saying,and it's pretty dang clear;
Class B -- any such vehicle towing a vehicle not in excess of 10,000 pounds GVWR.

i see the point you made earlier.i also have to agree,that surely there are many in violation.


edit.
wait though,this still doesn't seem right.
looking at the whole thing:
Class B -- Any single vehicle with a GVWR of 26,001 or more pounds, or any such vehicle towing a vehicle not in excess of 10,000 pounds GVWR.

let's brake this down;
"or any such vehicle"
any such vehicle.i read that as "a vehicle with a GVWR of 26,001 + lbs" then worded like this,
because otherwise it would say "or any vehicle" rather than "such vehicle"
see what im saying?
i just can't fathom "any" vehicle can't tow 10k lbs and require a CDL.so i re-read that line carefully.
they cannot mandate f350/450 light truck owners (with a legal capacity to tow well over 10k) to require a CDL.it just can't be so.these cant be those "such vehicles" they are speaking of here???????

i dunno why i worry,i never tow any such weight.just interesting/curious.


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still though.some of these trucks are capable of requiring a CDL though,my god.
look at the combined gross you can be with the things now:
http://www.ford.com/trucks/superduty/specifications/towing/

clearly you would need a CDL if you wanted to max the trucks out now regardless.good god man.33k with a light truck! frig that.id want to be in a medium duty.they're getting carried way these days.
i think the new trucks weigh in right around my trucks weight with the dump bed (a bit over 8k lbs)
that's like 25,000 you can tow.no doubt CDL required when passing 26k of course.that's clearly stated.
how the hell do you hitch 25k lbs to the truck? iv never looked into goosenecks,are they rated for this? must be i guess.
 
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Well if anything we've at least illustrated how clearly the laws are written.LOL
 
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Is what your saying or telling me is that I don't know how to drive since I turned 83 in Oct. Yeah I know there are some Old Folks out there driving big RV's, but most drive with caution within the speed limit, it's mostly the young guys that get impatient cause they can't go 80+ MPH.

My driving skills have not changed since I drove stock cars. Absolutely NO accidents in 60 years, well maybe a few on the track.

Just don't group all us Old ******** together. Yeah, I drive an RV Motorhome, pull 25' GN, 18' cargo trailer, 2 place snowmobile trl. with the Arctic Cat's EFI 580 and a fast ZRT 800 at 95 MPH, can't wait for some snow. I can stand her on her tail for 200 feet.

tell me more about this stock car racing.
 

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Correct. If that trailer registration breaks the 10,000lb mark, you need an A license .

And if the truck is registered for 26,001lbs or more you need a Class B

what about with farm plates? all my trucks are registered 32,000
 

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clearly you would need a CDL if you wanted to max the trucks out now regardless.good god man.33k with a light truck! frig that.id want to be in a medium duty.they're getting carried way these days.
i think the new trucks weigh in right around my trucks weight with the dump bed (a bit over 8k lbs)
that's like 25,000 you can tow.no doubt CDL required when passing 26k of course.that's clearly stated.
how the hell do you hitch 25k lbs to the truck? iv never looked into goosenecks,are they rated for this? must be i guess.

Kaufman trailers makes a 38k gvwr gooseneck, and I routinely see the 22k ones running around.

A buddy of mine runs a epoxy coating business and his 32 ft tri-axle trailer and dually truck is never under 26k. And yes he had to get his CDL because of it.
 

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tell me more about this stock car racing.

Hey BD; that was way back in 1954-55-56, long time ago. Fact is I've been mulling over about building one lately. A buddy of mine who used to drive sprints, and build up the Dodge Hornet engines last year for his 85th BD, they let him drive in the truck race at Waynesfield, he came in 3rd after screwing up on the 4th turn. He said, hell'va Birthday present, cost him $500 for suit and helmet. :rotflmao :D
 

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what about with farm plates? all my trucks are registered 32,000

As long as you are hauling FARM PRODUCT(corn, hay, tractors) to and from the farm, you are fine. You start hauling scrap, pickups, cars, PULLING tractors, NO you are in violation
 

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Hey BD; that was way back in 1954-55-56, long time ago. Fact is I've been mulling over about building one lately. A buddy of mine who used to drive sprints, and build up the Dodge Hornet engines last year for his 85th BD, they let him drive in the truck race at Waynesfield, he came in 3rd after screwing up on the 4th turn. He said, hell'va Birthday present, cost him $500 for suit and helmet. :rotflmao :D

BUILD ONE.

There is NOTHING more fun than stock car racing.
 

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As long as you are hauling FARM PRODUCT(corn, hay, tractors) to and from the farm, you are fine. You start hauling scrap, pickups, cars, PULLING tractors, NO you are in violation

And the LEO's set out along the road by the Ford engine plant, handed out tickets to the guys that had farm plates using there trucks to drive to work. Soon as they turned in the gate, follow them in, pay now or appear in Court on Wednesday. :eek::puke:
 
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