Jimbanjer
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I’m interested in seeing what is involved in setting up my rear tank to run WMO and WHO. Also, where do folks usually find it other than the free section on Craigslist?
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janssen
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I use WMO exclusively for years now in all my mechanical diesels. Blend is 85%. Love it. In Northern Canada runs great in the winter at -40 no preheaters, same blend.
In beginning had trouble due to not clean enough, plugged some injectors. invested in a centrifuge and never looked back, fuge it, blend it, fuge it again.
Am currently running a "destruction test" in my old test 470K 2008 Jeep Grand Cherokee with the Mercedes 3.0 CRD. at 3500 kms and no issues, took a few tanks for the computer to readjust in beginning smoked blue on idle like a ******! only difference i see now is that I roll some coal when accelerating hard. Only mods is hot chipped from GDE, DPF delete and 1~mic absolute inline filter before factory filter. Also drive it like a stole it - but that is normal
Am pretty optimistic at this point in the CRD test.
To the pessimists - Yes I know wmo has sharp little carbon thingys and will wear injectors faster, that is what parts vehicles are for!
All figures involve some rounding to make numbers easier.
So 3500Km = ~2200miles
17mpg (remember the drive it like you stole it)
2200/17 = ~130 gallons used
Canada - $4.58/gallon (1.20L) ( we carbon tax our fuel to save the environment!! - not sure how that works but been assured by my betters it does)
I figure it costs me .20/L or .76/Gallon to make (paying myself $0.05L $0.19/Gallon for hauling/pumping oil, some capital costs included, trucking, centrifuge etc.. not free)
I save 3.79/gallon
So current savings 492.44 in the last 6 weeks. $82/week, $4264 a year
Paid $3000 for the jeep. Current ~200K jeep CRD prices ~$7500
If this works then I will pour it into my wife's nice, $16K, low mileage jeep and she does about double my mileage so $8528 a year savings in hers + 4264 savings in mine $12,792 savings in fuel a year for this family JUST in our daily drivers. Not including farm tractors.
I can buy 1 "new" jeep every year if I have too and still be ahead...
Am I willing to risk it? So far I think yes...
John
In beginning had trouble due to not clean enough, plugged some injectors. invested in a centrifuge and never looked back, fuge it, blend it, fuge it again.
Am currently running a "destruction test" in my old test 470K 2008 Jeep Grand Cherokee with the Mercedes 3.0 CRD. at 3500 kms and no issues, took a few tanks for the computer to readjust in beginning smoked blue on idle like a ******! only difference i see now is that I roll some coal when accelerating hard. Only mods is hot chipped from GDE, DPF delete and 1~mic absolute inline filter before factory filter. Also drive it like a stole it - but that is normal
Am pretty optimistic at this point in the CRD test.
To the pessimists - Yes I know wmo has sharp little carbon thingys and will wear injectors faster, that is what parts vehicles are for!
All figures involve some rounding to make numbers easier.
So 3500Km = ~2200miles
17mpg (remember the drive it like you stole it)
2200/17 = ~130 gallons used
Canada - $4.58/gallon (1.20L) ( we carbon tax our fuel to save the environment!! - not sure how that works but been assured by my betters it does)
I figure it costs me .20/L or .76/Gallon to make (paying myself $0.05L $0.19/Gallon for hauling/pumping oil, some capital costs included, trucking, centrifuge etc.. not free)
I save 3.79/gallon
So current savings 492.44 in the last 6 weeks. $82/week, $4264 a year
Paid $3000 for the jeep. Current ~200K jeep CRD prices ~$7500
If this works then I will pour it into my wife's nice, $16K, low mileage jeep and she does about double my mileage so $8528 a year savings in hers + 4264 savings in mine $12,792 savings in fuel a year for this family JUST in our daily drivers. Not including farm tractors.
I can buy 1 "new" jeep every year if I have too and still be ahead...
Am I willing to risk it? So far I think yes...
John
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http://www.utahbiodieselsupply.com/blog
https://pabiodieselsupply.com/forum-library
https://usfiltermaxx.com/en/content/9-make-black-diesel
https://www.thedieselstop.com/forums/f22/wmo-how-thread-277887/
These websites have helped me a bunch with info.
I use the wvo mentality for heated/start-stop/two tank system for wmo since they are both thicker then diesel. But if you thin out your wmo and start&stop on diesel you should be able to get away with every little mods or none. You can look at some of the companies that make wvo systems and see what you would need to add to your truck to get what they sell. PAbiodiesel has a good list of system manufactures webpages. I haven't messed with wvo at all just wmo other waste petroleum products. WATF is a good if you can get it.
I watched craigslist a lot and went to mom/pop auto shops and asked if they had any they wanted hauled away for free. I also bring some donuts or other treats they like(pizza, bagels, Tacos, burritos) after I get to know them as a thank you. Biggest thing is no spills and look professional if you can.
https://pabiodieselsupply.com/forum-library
https://usfiltermaxx.com/en/content/9-make-black-diesel
https://www.thedieselstop.com/forums/f22/wmo-how-thread-277887/
These websites have helped me a bunch with info.
I use the wvo mentality for heated/start-stop/two tank system for wmo since they are both thicker then diesel. But if you thin out your wmo and start&stop on diesel you should be able to get away with every little mods or none. You can look at some of the companies that make wvo systems and see what you would need to add to your truck to get what they sell. PAbiodiesel has a good list of system manufactures webpages. I haven't messed with wvo at all just wmo other waste petroleum products. WATF is a good if you can get it.
I watched craigslist a lot and went to mom/pop auto shops and asked if they had any they wanted hauled away for free. I also bring some donuts or other treats they like(pizza, bagels, Tacos, burritos) after I get to know them as a thank you. Biggest thing is no spills and look professional if you can.
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