Essay on People with (IDI'S) in Thier Late Teens Early 20s

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  1. CharlesAllan9073

    CharlesAllan9073 Registered User

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    hey im a new member. ive used the threads many times for help with my truck and I appreciate the help ive gotten. im currently have a 1990 f250 on its way to transitioning into a 1ton. but im doing an essay on people in my concourse group (people in my age group also driving/building IDI's).

    Id like to know why an n/a over a power stroke if its pre turbo?

    do you daily drive it?

    do you do maintenance yourself and what was the most frustrating to deal with?

    have you had a bad experience at a diesel shop or garage?

    do you use your truck for work or recreation?

    and anything else you think would go good in an essay of things that would put us in the same group

    thank you
     
  2. Thatoneguy

    Thatoneguy Full Access Member

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    Well I'm 24. I use my truck for work work and more work. It's my toy too but whenever I'm not working I drive the wife's car cuz it's cheaper. Can't think of any bad experiences I've had with shops, cuz I rarely go to one. All my maintenance and repairs are done by me.
     
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    79jasper Chickenhawk

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    Your first question doesn't even make sense. N/A, pre-turbo, and powerstroke having absolutely nothing to do with each other. And a turbo idi is not a powerstroke.
    Could you clarify?

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  4. chillman88

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    Perhaps he means why would you choose an N/A IDI over a powerstroke? For me it was primarily cost of components. Injectors for the powerstroke are like 2-3 times more expensive.


    I'm technically out of your age group, I'm high 20s lol!

    I daily drive it, do all the maintenance and repair myself. So far the most frustrating thing I've had to deal with was fuel system problems. Between running out at 1/4 tank and my tank switch valve going bad on me, it's been frustrating. Everything likes to stop working in the winter!

    I bought the truck to eventually haul a 5th wheel camper but I guess technically the answer to your question would be work. She's my tow pig.
     
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    I daily drove mine from 16-21 years old until my commute made it so it wasn't financially smart to do so over a commuter car.

    IDI's are less expensive, which is a big factor for the younger crowd. I'd wager thats the reason why you would see a young person in one vs a newer Powerstroke, Cummins, or Duramax. There will be those who like the simplicity, but the vast majority of it will boil down to funds.

    They are easier to work on, and less expensive generally.
     
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    no mufflers Supporting Member Supporting Member

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    I have a lot of people who get confused with a 7.3 idi turbo and a PSD. for some reason when I say I turboed a 7.3 it becomes a PSD.cookoo

    Anyway.... I'm 24, and do ALL the work to my truck. I have a few build threads on here. I do automotive repair so over time I have bought more equipment so I can almost do everything I need to.
     
  7. IDIBRONCO

    IDIBRONCO IDIBRONCO

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    Most of the ones I run into don't know the difference period. Turbo or no turbo. They don't realize that Ford had two TOTALLY different diesel engines in their trucks with the same 7.3L displacement. My latest experience was with a neighbor with a 6.0 PSD. I pointed at his Explorer and said that a 7.3PSD is like the engine in your Explorer, all computer controlled. Then I pointed to my 81 F150 with a 302 and told him that my 7.3IDI was like that engine with no computer controls at all. He didn't seem completely convinced so, remembering that he's a OTR truck driver, I told him that my engine has an injector pump. I think he finally understood after that.
     
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    Can someone help me find the plug so I can use my friends bully dog tuner on my 1988 7.3 non turbo powerstroke?
     
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    IDIBRONCO IDIBRONCO

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    Sure! Just let me grab my wire cutters and make a stop at the local Ford dealership first!
     
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    Just going in order:

    1: Each of those engines has their own pro's and con's. My truck is NA and I like it because you can get to all 8 injectors and glowplugs with ease, but I wouldn't say no to a turbo IDI. The Powerstroke is an entirely different animal and I wouldn't say no to one of those either, but given the choice I'd pick an IDI over a PSD because the parts are cheaper and you can do most of the work yourself.

    2: Yup, unless it's like 105* outside, my AC doesn't work so on those days I borrow a Chevy LOL

    3: Some jobs I do myself, like changing my water pump, alternator, radiator, easy stuff like that. Jobs that require special techniques and tools (like timing), or just raw muscle are the ones I let the shop or specialists deal with. I am very much an amateur when it comes to wrenching. Things like oil changes I CAN do myself, but I prefer to just pay the $20 for the local shop to do it because changing oil on my driveway in the wind sucks. These trucks are very easy to work on, so for me the only frustrating thing is just not having a work bench, garage, or space to work with, and working in the constant wind is aggravating, but that's not the truck's fault.

    4: I've had bad experiences with garages over jobs that aren't diesel related, but when I've needed the engine itself worked on, I took the time to find shops / people that actually know what they're doing, so I've never had a bad experience with a diesel mechanic. I did call one shop (Left Coast Diesel, for anyone curious) to try and get the timing checked / adjusted, and the guy told me they'd have to pull the whole front cover to align the gears and etc etc etc, I tried to tell them that's not what my truck needs and they insisted that it did, and told me they had a '96 OBS in there for the same job I wanted. I tried explaining that the 7.3 IDI isn't related at all to the 7.3 PSD, but the guy had no clue what I was talking about so I took that as my clue to find another shop :D

    5: Both. It's my daily driver and my road trip machine, but I also use it for jobs around the house or around the shop (dump runs, tree trimming, gravel hauling, etc). It's not a work truck, it just occasionally has to work.

    As far as extra credit, one thing that might be worth mentioning is what condition was the truck in when it was bought. Over and over again here, you can see people buying trucks that have been sitting for 5-10 years or more, trucks that their owners thought were worn out and dead, which in reality only needed a new fuel pump or return kit to make it run brand new again. A lot of IDI's get retired because of very minor issues, so that can make them appealing and affordable to people who want to learn the basics of wrenching on a very simple engine.

    edit: forgot to add, I bought my truck when I was 23, I'm 28 now. Forgot I'm not in my "early twenties" anymore LOL
     
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    Welcome to the forum.

    Got mine in my early 20s and still have it now that I'm in my early 30s.

    There is nothing on this truck that I cannot repair. Except maybe for a cummins 12V, you cannot find a simpler, more reliable, fuel efficient diesel engine with such a low cost of ownership that can actually work for a living.

    I used my truck almost exclusively for work as a tradesman when I was in my 20s. Then I went to trades college, found work in heavy industry and used it to commute to remote work locations for shift work. Next job was fly-in fly-out, so the truck stayed close to home and was semi-retired. After a 2 year restoration, it returned to active duty as my daily driver to my current job.

    As to your specific questions; See my replies marked in red.


     
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  12. Danielle

    Danielle I'm kind of not allowed any more trucks! Supporting Member

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    Welcome to the forum! I'm too old for your essay but lots of luck in your build :)
     
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    First, I'm 27 now. I've been driving these trucks since before I turned 18. (learned on a '88 F-250 5-speed).
    Somewhat contradictory; IDIs may be turbocharged.
    My daily driver(s) do have a turbocharger(and lots more fuel). Currently one is a factory turbo engine/turbo and the other is a N/A engine with Banks turbo.
    A 7.3 IDI is stronger off idle than a 7.3 PSD - they are pretty anemic until they build boost. I much prefer my IDIs due to ease of working on(no computer **** needed), and the cost is a small fraction of a PSD.
    My two daily drivers are easily making more power(to the wheels) than a stock 7.3 PSD in any case.

    Yup. I drive mine to work and shopping, haul trailers, move stuff and generally work my truck(s) quite a bit.

    Yes, I do.
    Probably the most frustrating part is doing ball joints on one of these, if you don't have the proper tools. You need a ball joint press, big hammer and a nice impact wrench.
    I have a 20V DeWalt 1/2 impact wrench that makes like 1,000ft-lbs of torque. This is absolutely amazing for doing major work on one of these - pulling a cross member takes just a few minutes, most of which is getting the socket into position.

    Another frustrating maintenance item is the #5 and #7 glow plug on a Factory/ATS turbo setup. They are "under" the turbo and really hard to get to. On a Banks turbo setup, it's nowhere near as bad. On a N/A setup, it's really easy.

    I've never taken my trucks to any diesel shop - nobody knows anything about them in any case. I did have a performance engine shop rebuild a 7.3 IDI for me, and they screwed it up - one head had .010" too little valve recession clearance, and every single valve touched every single piston on that side. I found out about it when the #1 exhaust guide was totally gone from the valve being shoved up by the piston, to the point that it had a good .06" of clearance around it.
    Both. I don't use it as part of my day job(except as transportation), but use it regularly in terms of "work" - projects and the like.
    Recreation - Slapped a camper on it last year and took a week-long trip.
     
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  14. jwalterus

    jwalterus Made in America

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    I misread your OP, I'm not exactly in your age group lol

    Stupid phone.....
     
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    I thought there was going to be some mention of rolling coal or turning up the fuel by the title of the thread.
     
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