Another reason to stick with the old iron

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This kind of s**t is why this Country is so broke we keep giving money to other Countries. I would rather pay more for something made in U.S.A. then half for the same thing from anywhere else.
 

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That hits way to close to home... Like across the street! The Engine Plant they are talking about... I can see the stacks from the front porch on the house I grew up in! It is just another blow to an area already devistated by the recession and outsourceing... Thanks NAFTA and Slick Willy
 

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NAFTA will be the end of this country. I haven't seen anything made in Mexico last nearly as long as something made in the USA. I don't like unions, they are also going to be a downfall of this country but there is other answers to the problem other than sending all our production jobs and money to other countries. I don't understand why people do not understand that they are selling out the US. They don't care. So long as they can buy it cheaper it doesn't make a difference.
 

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I see where this thread is going... here is my 2 cents...

Unions... Had a purpose when they first came about... But now they abuse the power... I have never ever been helped by the union when I was in a union... Auto Unions really shot themselves in the foot... they ***** and piliaged the Auto Companies right into bankruptcy... $40 an hour for some guy that should have retired years ago to push a broom?!?! When Paramedics who save lives can't even make $15 and hour!

There is no call for sending the work out of the country... These companies sucess was built on the backs of hard working americans... I see this **** all the time though... America is very selfish... The want it now and want it cheap! That is why they bring all the these Phillipinos in to work in the Gulf and they work hard and for cheap as what... and they are happy todo it b/c they make in 6 months what it would take years to make in the Phillipines...

The funny thing is that some auto makers are building in America and are successful... without government help... Subura, Honda....
 

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The way I hear a lot of people talk makes me wonder. What makes a product american made?

American owned, and American assembled?

Foreign owned, and American manufactured and assembled?

Foreign manufactured and assembled, but American owned?

I don't hear many people complain when foregn owned company start planting there production lines in the states. Does that mean that we are only concerned with American workers, or the whole principal behind outsourcing, regardless of country of origin. Those Subaru and Honda jobs in the states are jobs that Japan could have had, or maybe that got outsourced to the US, it works both ways.

We are in a Global Economy now, in ten to fifteen years from now, wages will be higher in the countries that we are outsourcing to, and the jobs will return. Everything is on a cycle. Just gotta wait for it to come around again. All anybody and government is doing to stop the cycle is just extending it.

I say let the trend burn itself out. The companies will learn from there mistakes. Here and abroad.
 

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That might have worked, but the problem is the auto industry is so heavily regulated that only the big established companies can survive the red tape. They have to be so big that they become "too big to fail".

Yes, they learned from their mistakes. They learned that even if you never buy their product that they can still get their hands on your money through tax funded bailouts.

I think half of us here would love to build REAL trucks with REAL engines the way we know they should be. But the cost to test something as pathetic as a seat belt tie down is impossible to over come. Now you are dealing with variable deployment air bags, tailpipe emissions that you have to actually be able to breath in without getting sick, and it becomes a crap shoot with no way out.

If I really wanted to, I could almost afford to buy a new truck but for the above reasons alone, I will never do that.

Its funny to hear socialists claim that the free market has failed us, but in reality, there is no free market.

NAFTA????? yeah right! I often source parts from the states and am always slapped with brokerage fees right at the border. Whats funny is the government duties on chinese imports are in fact less (yes, i order crap from china too).
Why do I order from the states, china, EU, and rarely Au? Because some stuff can't be found in canada or they are so full of it that they won't even return my calls, which is why I do believe in globalization. Without competition, there is no reason to compete and improve ourselves. Those that won't adapt deserve to fail. Period.
 

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