95 PSD Power Loss Questions

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I am back again for some more help. I have been experiencing power loss towing a trailer on hills. I will start up the hill, approx half throttle at 60mph and will loose more than 15 mph on the grade. At this point any further pressing of the accelerator will make no change. I suspect some type of fuel delivery issue, but I would like to get some opinions on where to look. For info purposes, the truck is bone stock. I know it is high mileage but it does not smoke or burn oil so I am hoping for the best.
 

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Im sure you know best place to start is making sure everything is clean and fresh regular filter changes on fuel oil and air then after that you can check your fuel pressure from the schrader valve on the side of the filter housing. At idle you should be looking for between 55 and 75 and another thing you can try is a short hard run to use all the fuel you can then pull in somewhere and check the preasure again. My pump was going out but at idle it had pressure like it was supposed too but after a hard run it lacked the volume to keep up and would take it awhile to build pressure again. Also have you ever cleaned your fuel pressure regulator screen? But honestly if everything else is in good mechanical condition I'm betting your injectors are just getting tired with that many miles on them and your just loosing performance
 

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How is your air filter? What is your boost at? Any leaks? EGTs? If it can't get more air, it won't give it more fuel.
 

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I will look into locating a fuel pressure tester so I can get some readings. Is there a good fuel pressure gauge (electric) that doesnt cost $200 that people have had good luck with ? I do not have any aftermarket gauges installed so I have no idea about EGTs or boost pressure. I would assume boost is minimal because rpms were not high.
 
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I will look into locating a fuel pressure tester so I can get some readings. Is there a good fuel pressure gauge (electric) that doesnt cost $200 that people have had good luck with ? I do not have any aftermarket gauges installed so I have no idea about EGTs or boost pressure. I would assume boost is minimal because rpms were not high.

I just bought a sender and then measured it with a ohm meter. I calibrated it with the air compressor gauge. Not perfect but close enough.
 

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Ok, I have a fuel pressure gauge on order from Glow Shift. Once I get it installed and have some numbers, I will report back.
 

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Ok, I got my fuel pressure gauge installed today after work and I did a couple of tests. At idle, I am looking at about 55-60. Moderate acceleration will drop that to 48-50. Heavy acceleration (no load) and I can drop that pressure to 39-40. I do not have a loaded trailer at the moment to test with further burden. Air, oil and fuel filters are all good or new. I have not exaimined the regulator screen. Is this under a cap on the regulator body?
 

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When's the last time you changed the fuel filter? These pics may help. I think the 95's have the mechanical fuel pump under the filter.
 

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Ok, I got my fuel pressure gauge installed today after work and I did a couple of tests. At idle, I am looking at about 55-60. Moderate acceleration will drop that to 48-50. Heavy acceleration (no load) and I can drop that pressure to 39-40. I do not have a loaded trailer at the moment to test with further burden. Air, oil and fuel filters are all good or new. I have not exaimined the regulator screen. Is this under a cap on the regulator body?

I assume that means in park? I just recently tested mine with a liquid filled gauge. I have a 95 psd with 116k miles. after shimming the fpr I am right at 65 psi at idle and the needle wiggles a little now run it up to 2k rpm and I have 70 psi pegged solid on the gauge, no wiggling of the needle, still in park. don't know if this helps. I believe there is a mechanical and electric pump on yours like mine. if this is the issue it could be one or the other. maybe someone with more experience can chime in with how to test both. also pull your back pressure sensor and make sure it's clean and the tube is open. don't know if that would have the above effect but can't make them run poorly.

I can tell you this though changing out the down pipe to 3" and 4" pipe back with no cat no muffler dropped my egt's from 340* to 230* at idle at operating temps! I then installed an efe stage II cold air intake, didn't see a drop in egt's at idle but did lower it at 65 mph 50*. if you look at programmers you want to at all costs stay away from the edge programmers for your truck!!!! they DON'T WORK WELL with these years of fords, the gauges are not accurate, it shuts off while your driving requiring you restart the truck and it can or will short your computer. either than that there great cookoo yes I speak from experience and was lucky enough after a year of calling them to get them to refund my money. a good controller is the only way to go with separate gauges. I purchased a dp tuner f5 for mine but haven't got it yet. I just installed the 3 in 1 glow shift gauge and like it so far.
 
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No, other than the idle value the pressures where taken in drive while moving. Yes, i do have.a mechanical fuel pump. It appears that someone "let the cat out" so that is not an issue.
 

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No, other than the idle value the pressures where taken in drive while moving. Yes, i do have.a mechanical fuel pump. It appears that someone "let the cat out" so that is not an issue.

there should also be an electric pump on your frame rail , drivers side back by the tank. like the above post said try cleaning your regulator screen too. the pressure's I posted were done in park in my drive, never checked in motion. with the intake and exhaust it still doesn't smoke, it is a little louder but when your in the truck with the windows up you can't hear it. how old are the inj's?
 

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also a good friend of mine with a '97 changed his exhaust and intake as I did and installed stage I inj's 160 cc. on a stock tune he was hitting 27 lbs of boost in overdrive pulling 7k lbs in his trailer. he now has added a 6 pos chip with wildman tunes and still sees 25 lbs boost same load.
 

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there should also be an electric pump on your frame rail , drivers side back by the tank.

there is no pump on the frame.
also a good friend of mine with a '97 changed his exhaust and intake as I did and installed stage I inj's 160 cc. on a stock tune he was hitting 27 lbs of boost in overdrive pulling 7k lbs in his trailer. he now has added a 6 pos chip with wildman tunes and still sees 25 lbs boost same load.

no way its gettin 27PSI on a stock tune.no matter what injectors you run they arent gonna dump anymore fuel than the stock injectors on a stock tune.
 

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