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[Sidewinded_idi]

I’m a shop and I source these as new old stock, not parts store junk, not reman, NEW

What pop testing does is tests all the components. You can see the spray pattern

 

[Thewespaul]

What pop testing does is tests all the components. You can see the spray pattern

Yep and I guarantee each of those 20 injectors doesn’t have half as good of a pattern as these new B.B. codes

You can pinch your dime and keep throwing more shims in their to make up for the wear in the nozzle but as said before nozzle is a wear item.... needs to be reground or replaced.....

 

[Sidewinded_idi]

Yep and I guarantee each of those 20 injectors doesn’t have half as good of a pattern as these new B.B. codes

You can pinch your dime and keep throwing more shims in their to make up for the wear in the nozzle but as said before nozzle is a wear item.... needs to be reground or replaced.....

Actually I have three brand new B.B. injectors in the box I completely disassembled and inspected and found zero difference in spray and actually little less quality machine work internally

 

[Sidewinded_idi]

I actually preferred the quality to the stanadyne injectors over the B.B. better quality to me internally machine work and pattern. You can disagree with me all you want but when you understand the mechanics behind the part you’ll understand that once cleaned, and pop tested/inspected there is nothing wrong with used injectors

 

[Thewespaul]

Well I have to disagree with you there, if you talk to any pump/injection shop they will tell you that nozzle is a wear item maybe after you have pop tested more than one set you will realize that.

 

[towcat]

Show me anyone that Manufactures their own brand new injector besides the chains. When you buy from most places they are rebuilt and pop tested/ matched. If you’ve ever opened one up you’ll know right away there isn’t much to them

Typ4 and R&D rebuilds the bodies but put in new tips and needles.
Due to them having to hand build every injector, availability can be sporadic and "out of stock" does happen.

 

[homelessduck]

I don't understand why he's getting hounded over the injectors.. If he pop tested them and they have equal pop pressure, no dribbling and a good spray pattern, which he says they do, I don't see the problem...

 

[Thewespaul]

I don't understand why he's getting hounded over the injectors.. If he pop tested them and they have equal pop pressure, no dribbling and a good spray pattern, which he says they do, I don't see the problem...

I guess it’s a pet-peeve when someone tries to spread bad info on a forum because someone will be doing research later on and be misinformed because of it. There’s nothing wrong with pop testing to /maintain/ a set of injectors but it won’t fix a worn out nozzle, no amount of shims will fix that. If he found a good set out of the twenty injectors he had then great, he saved himself a buck. But this is the get-yourself-by method, pop testing and shimming does not replace a good rebuild with a new nozzle.

If it did people wouldn’t have issues with eBay injectors

 

[homelessduck]

I see what you're saying. A new set will definitely last longer. Cleaning doesn't change nozzle wear. But that doesn't mean a used set can't work correctly. They just won't last as long as a new set.

 

[Sidewinded_idi]

I guess it’s a pet-peeve when someone tries to spread bad info on a forum because someone will be doing research later on and be misinformed because of it. There’s nothing wrong with pop testing to /maintain/ a set of injectors but it won’t fix a worn out nozzle, no amount of shims will fix that. If he found a good set out of the twenty injectors he had then great, he saved himself a buck. But this is the get-yourself-by method, pop testing and shimming does not replace a good rebuild with a new nozzle.

If it did people wouldn’t have issues with eBay injectors

It’s not Mis information. If you pop test, inspect, and check spray pattern there is zero difference. When you disassemble you can inspect and diagnose a bad nozzle.

 

[Thewespaul]

It’s not Mis information. If you pop test, inspect, and check spray pattern there is zero difference. When you disassemble you can inspect and diagnose a bad nozzle.

So why would you say there are so many issues with most rebuilders like the hall of shame eBay guys?

I’m not saying you are wrong in doing what you did, it’s just not the same as a new nozzle etc rebuild

 

[79jasper]

Well a lot of those guys don't even check pop pressure or pattern. Lol

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[Sidewinded_idi]

So why would you say there are so many issues with most rebuilders like the hall of shame eBay guys?

I’m not saying you are wrong in doing what you did, it’s just not the same as a new nozzle etc rebuild

Completely agree with you there. I’m sure most places simply clean and re assemble. Of my stock of used injectors I ran across quite a few pintle and seat combos that wouldn’t seal and/or have bad patterns. I think we are both on the same page that a quality diesel shop known to replace these items is much better than just throwing money at unknown rebuilders. I personally wouldn’t buy rebuilds unless it was from one of the few forum members here.