Weird issue with timing my bull moose

[IDIoit]

OPERATOR MALFUNCTION TO THE FULLEST!!!!

BAMUTHAF'NBAM!!!
every post ive read said that if you were a tooth off, it would run very poorly!
this truck did run well. started up first time every time even at -9.5 degrees!!!


well here is the culprit!
i put a 5/16 bolt through the IP housing cover so that the IP gear would not move, when i attempted to lift the cover.
broke the seal, lifted the cover up slightly to get the timing gear cover from behind the IP gear housing.
and this is what i found.
looks like 2 teeth off to me.

i was so carefull when i installed this last time i resealed the timing gear cover, guess i wasnt as carefull as i thougtht.
live and learn.
so glad i took this apart today, now i can set my mind at ease!!!
gotta wait a day for new gaskets tho!

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[Clb]

Belts align with the pulleys?
Never had mine apart, i can go get the manual out?!

 

[IDIoit]

Belts align with the pulleys?
Never had mine apart, i can go get the manual out?!

im pretty sure this is the way it was when i initally pulled it apart, minus the gear alignment..lol
im going to install the new vacuum pump, new tensioner with the shock, and new PSP, we will see if i have issues after that.

 

[sjwelds]

I appreciate the updating of the signature to keep us posted on the retardation situation.

Unable to contain my zeal for observation of finished, correct, proper gear alignment and the subsequent performance of the powerplant!

Will be anxiously awaiting further notifications!

 

[riotwarrior]

NOW is the time to ahem....just file/grind a slight bevel on each tooth beside the timing mark on the cam gear so if ever you gotta do it again....you can see the beveled gear and align the same IP gear accordingly!

Thanks for the update.... and I too await the report on correctly timed and running engine!

 

[IDIoit]

I appreciate the updating of the signature to keep us posted on the retardation situation.

Unable to contain my zeal for observation of finished, correct, proper gear alignment and the subsequent performance of the powerplant!

Will be anxiously awaiting further notifications!

listen here you non orange tag havin .. member....
your trash talkin rights are still revolked

yep, im still ( and most likely forever) am retarded, however, my truck will not be Thursday morning!

im really really looking forward to driving it once its timed correctly!!!

i have alot of work to do tonight and tomorrow, a pile of parts waiting for me to install!

new vacuum pump, new tensioner with that fancy shock thingy, new battery cables, new PSP,
and a headliner!

bad news... my brother needs to barrow this truck for a week once i get her dialed....
i should make him let me barrow his pan!, but then id wreck his harley

NOW is the time to ahem....just file/grind a slight bevel on each tooth beside the timing mark on the cam gear so if ever you gotta do it again....you can see the beveled gear and align the same IP gear accordingly!

Thanks for the update.... and I too await the report on correctly timed and running engine!

dude, that long bolt where the IP gear housing cover goes, is for a lack of a better phrase, THE ****!
ran the bolt to the gear, and it didnt budge a bit....
this is how i will do the cover from now on....
it makes it IDIoit proof!

 

[icanfixall]

Never pull the cover with the pump and the gear attached.... Never be off a tooth or two again.. I bet you did reinstall the gear wrong because someone before you did it wrong. Glad you figured it out and took pics too. Now this may be correct or not but.. You have some timing marks already I think. Try lining them up when it goes back together You might be advanced but try it out. See how it runs at a mark you made. then time it again to be sure. and see how it runs.

 

[IDIoit]

its mostly all back together, i need to get some fleet charge.
hope to have it running tonight, but i gotta drop the starter and install my new + cable.
re-do my damn IP return line, i broke a fitting messing with it
luckily i had a spare off my old IP.

 

[bbjordan]

Toot toot

Ehem...I don't usually toot my own horn, but I called it on post # 78 (page 6)

well here is the culprit!
i put a 5/16 bolt through the IP housing cover so that the IP gear would not move, when i attempted to lift the cover.
broke the seal, lifted the cover up slightly to get the timing gear cover from behind the IP gear housing.
and this is what i found.
looks like 2 teeth off to me.

As pointed out tho, the timing is still out about 18 degrees. That is about 2 teeth out!

That deserves a prize or something, eh? Like maybe a timing sticker.

Oh, and using the dental pick to find the Y is not an Urban Myth, that was me too!

http://www.oilburners.net/forums/sh...DI-injector-pump-timing&highlight=dental+pick

 

[ToughOldFord]

i was once retarded..... yep, still am

 

[IDIoit]

Ehem...I don't usually toot my own horn, but I called it on post # 78 (page 6)

That deserves a prize or something, eh? Like maybe a timing sticker.

Oh, and using the dental pick to find the Y is not an Urban Myth, that was me too!

http://www.oilburners.net/forums/sh...DI-injector-pump-timing&highlight=dental+pick

yea yea yea toot muthaf'n toot.



there going in the mail tomorrow.

SO.....
SHES A RUNNER ONCE AGAIN!
just got her fired up, a handfull of new parts in the process...

all new cables.
i used the van cables, not a direct truck fit.
http://www.oilburners.net/forums/showthread.php?72250-Need-battery-cables&p=848648#post848648

got a nasty oil leak out of my damn lift pump block off plate...
guess i used the wrong one...
ill be fixing that in the morning.
new PSP, new vacuum pump, new idler w/ shock
new belt
new fleet charge
needs an oil change something fierce

NO MORE SQUEALING BELT!!!!!!!!

but shes a runner, and ready to be timed!

 

[Clb]

NO MORE SQUEALING BELT!!!!!!!!
Now thats worth it all!


but shes a runner, and ready to be timed![/QUOTE
Rimshot' que cb
C ya tomorrow

 

[IDIoit]

first cold start after everythings back together confirms its all sealed up

 

[The Warden]

Congrats!! I'm curious to see how she'll do after the timing is finally where it's supposed to be

 

[IDIoit]

Carl is on the way with his meter.
we will know shortly!